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Thanks for the effort and in one of the threads I see you mention that it has S.(Samuel?) Sutherland and Petrov may have already ID'd Samuel Sutherland of Richmond, Virginia: http://antiquearmsinc.com/sutherland-virginia-marked-civil-war-shotgun.htmI would like to think that George H. Farriss was compensated for the design or like many, many other designers, he took advantage of the skill and value of the mechanics in Liege and had Auguste Francotte built it. And it may be that Auguste Francotte permeated every facet of gunmaking and was the go-to concern for executing all your design whims/needs. Dana, where might you reside? Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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sorry, I dont think I would let it go for 300 to 600.
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Ah, so no where close to Richmond, huh? Did your Grandfather live or have any relatives near Richmond or Cincinnati?
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no, grandpa came from evansville indiana area and settled near pueblo.
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At face value, it would appear that there was a very small market for the George H. Farriss innovation and the Auguste Francotte concern was engaged to produce the innovative design. It is very unique and has its place in the evolution of breechloaders but has little collector value as in the scheme of gunmaking it had a second, or less, of fame. There may be a baker's dozen or so and the survival rate may by 10% - 30% of the total production. In my opinion sentimental value far out weighs the realized value and that is as best as I can frame it.
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For what it is worth, Dale Edmonds, whom many of you know, was and I think still is the owner of the Charles Daly, on the old auctionarms link. Daly
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thanks for all your help, kinda cool to find this info.
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Well, I'm hoping that PeteM or some other Auguste Francotte authority will have some input. The U.S. of A. sporting weapons story is so complex involving many other gunmaking centers and we have just scratched the surface. In time more details will surface so stay tuned. My true interest commences about this time as Schoverling & Daly arrive on the scene & there is just enough mechanization from the industrial revolution that psuedo-mass production of sporting weapons occurs in the Austria-Hungarian empire as well as Belgium & Germany.
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