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Yes. All lesser, unfortunately. But although that one's very nice, Scott "cataloged" guns of greater quality, like the Imperial Premier and the Premier--unless maybe you think that one's up to those standards.
As far as knowing what one is looking at, I've scarcely ever seen a post from you, Joe, that contains any substance whatsoever when it comes to guns. Just snide comments. Which means it's very much open to question whether you know much of anything at all about guns. If you do, you shouldn't go to such extremes to hide your light under a bushel. This place is all about sharing knowledge, not taking cheap shots. We know you're an expert in the latter, but that's about it.
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Scott may not be a London maker but I have one engraved London on the rib with London proff's. Please explain this.? Maybe made in Birmingham proffed in London? The Scott factory was in Birmingham, but they had a showroom in London.
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I concur with the analysis that while not the highest possible grade Scott, it is at the top of the spectrum of quality. I believe it could be said to be a catalog gun to the extent that all the guns at the top end of the catalog were in some respects custom with options. With Scott as with other makers the top end is shown in the catalog, but the ordered and made to order from stock parts.
American manufatcturers like LC and Fox were similar in listing the top end guns in their catalogs while making them on what was essentially a custom basis.
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But isn't that true of any gun manufacturer, the higher grades are usually in the front of a catalog. Some change it by goes the other way to get your interest.
With L.C. Smiths, starting at No. 5 up, they were all custom made to your specifications, not that you couldn't get some of these same features as in the higher grades, but then on a lower grade with options your price might be in the upper range.
On some of L.C. Smiths highest quality pre-1913's, the A3, there were only 18 made and then it was the highest priced gun anywhere, that included English guns.
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As far as knowing what one is looking at, I've scarcely ever seen a post from you, Joe, that contains any substance whatsoever when it comes to guns. Just snide comments. Which means it's very much open to question whether you know much of anything at all about guns.
Unlike some I do know enough not to comment on things I know nothing about.  Your comments about this gun show you know nothing about Scotts.
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My "comments" were based on an unsuccessful attempt to determine which of the many Scott hammerless sidelock models this one may have been. If you're able to tell us that, Joe, please do so. Otherwise . . . once again, you've contributed nothing of substance--thus maintaining your perfect record in that respect. As for comparing this particular gun to other Scotts, I defer to the gentleman below, who I believe might even have seen one or two more Scotts than you have, Joe--as difficult as it may be for you to accept: Nice enough gun. Not Scott's best quality model at the time though. The blurb is incorrect in stating it was more expensive than a contemporary Purdey. The model he is thinking of is the Excellentia and the later bar action pigeon guns of de lux quality. Looks to be a fair price for a decent gun as far as one can tell from limited photos.
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The model he is thinking of is the Excellentia and the later bar action pigeon guns of de lux quality. Looks to be a fair price for a decent gun as far as one can tell from limited photos. No Excellentia grade Scott I've ever saw (or owned) compares to this gun. Larry I guess in your haste to beat your chest you missed my reply.
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Joe, Small Bore didn't say this was an Excellentia grade, only that the seller's description would have been accurate if it was an Excellentia. Larry's question is still not answered ... appears you can't identify it either?
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There is no way to identify a custom made non cataloged gun...but I can assure you if he had called it an Excellentia grade it would have been belittling the gun.
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The only Scott I'm aware of that cost more than a Purdey was the Premier Imperial. I will stand corrected by the learned council but that's what my catalogs and reference material indicate. Crawford's book lists the Excellentia as a "B" quality gun.
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