What are they, Larry? Look sort of Teutonic.

Curtis, you say you've got one of these super-naif Ithicys that look like the inside of a Presbyterian church and we haven't seen it? Don't know about the 3 pattern on the 4. I guess that's possible; I'm sure Ansley would have let you pay for a FE engraved like a Sterlingworth but what I don't know about Ithaca has already filled one thread this week. Near as I can tell there's "early" (dogs and scroll) and "late" (stickbirds and broadleaf weeds) on the 4. There's a damascus 4 on GunBroker which is pretty nice as an engraved object and probably looks very much like your 1911. Mine's 1918 and isn't but I got strange swamped-rib barrels which have been to Britain to take some blue pills. Some of the real Ithacanados have kept me from fainting dead away over the Brit proofmarks by assuring me that the barrel set is kosher and possibly even desirable.

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