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The barrels were made by Henry Squires of Soho, London.
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According to the serial # list on the A,G & L site, that gun was made well before 1902: http://www.atkingrantandlang.com/our-company.php?company=19The address on the rib is for Atkin's 1890-1905 location. Interesting Boss single trigger. That's Robertson's 1894 patent. It must have gone to Boss for it. OWD
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wburns,
Would Henry Squires have been making barrels around the year 1900?
Respectfully, Mark
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Mark--The "choke" mark on each barrel indicates that they started life with at least a minimal amount of choke (I think .008). Didn't see anyone remark on the "IC" that appears on both flats. If that designates improved cylinder, it's definitely not a Brit mark. Have you measured bores and chokes??
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wburns,
Would Henry Squires have been making barrels around the year 1900?
Respectfully, Mark Not sure of all the years he or his company built barrels. Some of the Englishmen on the board may likely know what years he was in business. He supplied Boss and others with barrels. I have a Boss with the same stamping.
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Larry,
Is that ""IC" or "10"?
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[quote=obsessed-with-doubles]According to the serial # list on the A,G & L site, that gun was made well before 1902: http://www.atkingrantandlang.com/our-company.php?company=19The address on the rib is for Atkin's 1890-1905 location. Interesting Boss single trigger. That's Robertson's 1894 patent. It must have gone to Boss for it." End Quote Hi all, I have a Henry Atkin, SN: 933, it's a SLE, DT non-Spring Opener. When I got her I wrote A,G & L and here was the response: "Completed in 1897, Number 1 of a pair that was ordered by Lord A. Gordon Lemoc, never picked up and later sold to JJ Medlicott....." As your SN is well below mine, it seems as if the gun was started at least in the early 90's and then sold at a later date. Ah, the twists and turns of the trade! All the best! Greg
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Greg,
How much different are your Atkin's proof marks than those of mine?
Thanks, Mark
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Hi Mark, Mine has the the "correct" markings for the period (Rules of Proof, 1896-1904) . The gun is also sleeved and is refected as such under the Rules of Proof for 1954.
I also have to add she is a fine shooter and one which I won't part with. A quality gun all the way around.
You have a nice gun BTW, very nice!
Greg
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Hi all, I have a Henry Atkin, SN: 933, it's a SLE, DT non-Spring Opener. When I got her I wrote A,G & L and here was the response:
"Completed in 1897, Number 1 of a pair that was ordered by Lord A. Gordon Lemoc, never picked up and later sold to JJ Medlicott....." Greg, Since Medlicott is such an unusual name I ran a Ggogle search. There is a J J Medlicott mentioned in the India List and India Office List (a list of the British civil service in India) for 1904. He was a senior engineer. The timing is right for him to have bought the gun to go to India. Nigel
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