Eight, I actually do find five minutes to be plenty. My overall knowledge of the subject is admittedly pretty thin when compared to others, but... there's a point where I might as well be studying the various models of Rolls Royce or admiring a Learjet. Girly magazines ceased to appeal some time ago also... pity, but the pictured goodies are out of reach.

"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble