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Gentlemen, A gun has come by a little outside my normal realm and I could use your sage advice.A Belgium Browning 20 O/U Serial No.124xx,(date??) 28" mod+full,2 3/4"and 3" in very clean original cond.99% action and barrel blue,tight action,mirror bores,few very light marks on original stock finish. Two issues: LOP 14 7/8" over the dreaded Pachmayer White Line pad (13 7/8"from wood butt to single trigger)and a 1 1/2" crack on the left side rear of the forend wood,not very noticable but there.Value??
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Terry, A friend just purchased a 20 gauge Superposed here. Gun is in excellent condition - he paid $2,000 and was offered $2500 before he got it home. That may give you some idea of Western Canadian prices at this time. I know 2 guys that are looking for good ones and would be willing to pay $3,000 for one in 90% plus condition.
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In the US, $3500-4000 for a high condition 28" 20 ga SP is my estimate. The fore-end crack hurts some but I don't know how much. The fore-ends's are very thin next to the ejector hammers, about where you describe the crack.
The 28" guns sell for more than the 26.5" barreled SPs.
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One of the more desirable serial number ranges for collectors. The only more coveted is the steel trigger 2 3/4 inch chamber guns of 1949 and very early 50s. Your stock was barely trimmed. A horn butt could be reinstalled flat and you would be almost back to original length. It has to be installed by a real good stockmaker to avoid ending up a mess. I don't know if your gun was shod in horn, but the serial number is close enough for horn to be proper. If your gun is a solid rib gun, it could be worth $4000 once you get the buttplate back on properly. Vent rib and gold trigger, maybe $3200.
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Terry, my 20 Super is numbered 108xx and has the horn BP. My dad bought it new in 1957, which equates to the date tables. The rear of the stock is curved, so I don't know how much wood you'd have to sacrifce (read: shorter LOP) to get the original look. One of my other Supers has a Whiteline pad and it is cut straight. FWIW, the gun has 3" chambers.
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I just bought a 1960 gun, (LTRK, 26.5", ) in about 98% overall, mirror bores, tiny fore-end crack in the same location as yours. My stock hasn't been cut. My gun has 3" chambers and it shoots tight for the choke designations (codes ** and **-, which is M and IC).I've always wanted a 20 just like my 1949 12, but I settled for a vent rib instead of the solid rib on my 12. I paid $2100 and thought I got a bargain. Incidentally, you can date your gun by the serial number on the Browning website (browning.com).
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that Superposed was born in 1958 and yes the 28" do bring a premium especially with solid rib.However a cut stock is still a cut stock,you can't grow that wood back.I doubt you will get in the 3k range more like 25-2700 is what it would sell for.That carck may be able to be hidden by a good restorer.
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Eightbore, why are the early guns bringing a premium? I just bought a 20ga super, ser# 306 w/28"bbls and a vent rib, steel trigger with a cut stock, 13 1/4 to end of wood, that is a standard weight, not a lightning and is great for targets, but weighs 6# 13oz. I wouldn't think it would be coveted as a field gun @ that wgt? My gun has 98/99% metal and 80 % wood finish. Jerry
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The early 50's guns are light weight with smaller wrist that feel better to some. The European sold models continued this light weight and small wrist into the early 60's. I have a US sold early 50's (1951) 20 and an early 60's (1964) that was sold in France that feel very similar, although, of course, the engraving is different.
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Thanks for all the feedback.Gives me a pretty good handle on value. Just put it on the scale and it weighs 6Lbs 13oz. with the groovy,vintage white line pad.Any thoughts on what would be a more acceptable pad?? BTW, gun has a vent rib and gold single trigger.Chokes are pretty tight at .022 and .032.Grip is pretty slim,handles great.
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