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King, I respected the late Ed Muderlak's contributions here and bought his book on the Parker shotguns, even tough I am not a Parker person, but I bought it anyway.

The reason for my beef with him was that a while back someone posted about how the pheasant population has declined and that South Dakota always held it's own. The measured success as one million pheasants harvested in the season. I posted back that in the early 70's, Pennsylvania killed over a million pheasants and was more than South Dakota and a few other states as well. It made the Top 10 in pheasant harvest.
Now I knew this as a fact, and Ed stepped in with his first post and told me basically I was full of crap. Well that started it and I posted back and told him that his state didn't even come close and I guess that raised some hair on his neck and he went on and on.
I finally posted a link to what I had said, never posted again about it or made any kind of apology, didn't think he would admit to not knowing something.
He rubbed me the wrong way with his smart-assed remarks, and I told him to stick with what he supposedly knew. Also at the time I was looking at another book by him, but I refused to buy it just on gp.

David, you did what I would have done under the circumstances: provided the evidence and left it at that, no apology necessary.

I don't get into confrontations with a persons reporting from personal knowledge and research but contribute where my experience differs with guns or birds.

Our forum is a surpassingly useful resource. What disappoints is how discussion often seems to diminish with distance when we should consider it face-to-face.

As another member posts, "I am glad to be here." Happy New Year to all.

King, I agree with you. I have learned so much on this site from some of the most knowledgeable people around. It is everyone that contributes here, no matter how slight the information might me that this is used by many.

The greatest gun book ever could be published with all of this information.

I do not like to post things about someone that is not here to respond back, I just wanted to let some of the readers know how I felt about some of his postings.

And I also am glad to be here.

If it's any consolation, please know that we really appreciate the effort. You, and others like you, give us information that just can't be found easily anywhere else.

David, I sure remember those days in Pennsylvania. I don't know what South Dakota or other states were like back then, but I'll never forget putting up flocks of pheasants and the times I had my daily limit within minutes of starting. Pretty sad what we have today, and sadder still to hear the great Penna. Game Commissions' excuses for why it's so bad. Pheasants, other than a few stocked birds, have gotten as scarce as California condors in the western part of the commonwealth. Deer management has gotten very ugly too. I personally believe that the Penna. Game Commission board of directors has been hijacked by anti-hunters. Real wildlife managers couldn't do things this bad if they tried.

Keith,

Thank you on behalf of all those here who contribute their knowledge. I know, I am constantly learning.

For a the best site for Aubrey / Meriden information check out
http://www.meridenfirearms.com/history.html

Joe lives in Meriden and has spent countless hours in the library doing research. When I want answers, I turn to him. Just I as I turn to Daryl for Baker or Ken for Lindner or or Raimey for Krupp or Marc for Belgian info or Miller to keep me honest or so many others here.

I expect a few errors / typos along the way. A small price to pay for the years of cumulative knowledge that flows at no expense except the desire to learn.

Pete

Shotgunjones, I appreciate your comment on the DGJ policy of allowing advertising in articles. Not that the historical information isn't appreciated, but the fluff is a serious distraction. How much do you really make on a DGJ article? The Ford Motor Company connection may make things a bit different. However, to his credit, Daniel Cote has not published an article by Stuart Williams for a while and hopefully will never again. Running an article that showcases a double gun business is way different than showcasing Ford Motor Company or a major outfitter, (I think). Personally, I would like to continue to hear about Chaddick's, Steve Barnett, William Larkin Moore and other gun businesses, but a fluff article on an outfitter is best left to another magazine. The Ford business I can get in the Sunday guts.

Pete, your site and posts here are very informative. Between you and Brother Drew, I have learned alot about Damascus barrels.

Keith, the only birds here are turkeys, I don't hunt them. I tried a few years ago with a bow and I personally can't sit still long enough. One reason I don't hunt deer.

The pheasants here and around Allentown was like you said, hunt the alfalfa fields first thing in the morning, hunt the cover during the day and then hunt the alfalfa as the birds were coming back in to roost.
You didn't have to go to another state, there were plenty here.

For me now to get the dog into any birds I have to buy them, the one good thing is that chuckers can be shot all year, no season. But that will probably change also. I don't particularly like them, most don't fly far and they walk around in front of the dog and he won't chase them.

I believe what you are saying about the game commision, back then they would have never let this happen. The game commission blames it on the chicken virus, but I know for a fact the state does not let the young pheasants out when they are 6 weeks old like they used to on property that wasn't posted.

I might start on starlings, to bad they don't hold.

Eightbore, I probably over-reacted to that article but I wasn't alone. It certainly gave the publication the appearance of whoring out, and I just didn't renew.

All these rags end up cluttering the clubhouse coffee tables eventually anyway, and 5 minutes skimming a few months after the fact is all I need. Money goes to more targets and shells.

Freedom of the press belongs to those who own one as Leibling said, but the ultimate power is with the consumer who refuses to buy poor goods.

I quit the local paper too when they published a political cartoon on the front page and insisted it was 'news'.

The whole wide world is here on the internet, from whatever slant and prejudice you enjoy and for now it's free.

Shotgunjones, I don't think you overreacted on the Ford commercial. It was unacceptable. However, you obviously don't know much about shotguns and shotgun knowledge if you think the DGJ is properly digested months after publication with five minutes of scanning at the local gun club. You won't get much support on that statement. Most of us have plenty of money for shells after paying for our DGJ subscriptions.