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I live near Gamefair and have bought several guns from John- nothing highly collectible mind you. I don't mind paying a little more from a brick and mortar shop just to compensate for browsing priveleges. I'd say every transaction has been at fair retail value, and everything has been as advertised.
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Colin, you are buying the gun. A good dealer helps, but in the long run, you are buying the gun. The Crosnoe gun is bored full and full and will increase in value. The stock may be way higher than you are used to shooting. The Allen gun may suit your purposes better, but will never be worth a dollar more than you pay for it. He was very honest about that. If you can live with full and full, buy the Crosnoe gun. I would look for a looser choked original gun from another reputable dealer.
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I have known John and dealt with him for close to 30 years. He has always treated me fairly and been honest in all transactions.
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Colin: IMHO For Model 21's I suggest you take a look at William Larkin Moore and Sons. Jerry
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OK, two different guns from reputable dealers. The Crosnoe gun is at least semi-collectable. Why would you pay for collector value in a "using" gun that will almost certainly suffer scratches and wear, and will probably need stock work (trap guns normally shoot high compared to guns used for other games, such as skeet or sporting clays, or for hunting) all of which will reduce the value of the gun, as originality is important in a collectable piece. Buy the Gamefair gun and get it fitted, use it, and if you decide you want a high condition collectable at a later time, get one.
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OK, two different guns from reputable dealers. The Crosnoe gun is at least semi-collectable. Why would you pay for collector value in a "using" gun that will almost certainly suffer scratches and wear, and will probably need stock work (trap guns normally shoot high compared to guns used for other games, such as skeet or sporting clays, or for hunting) all of which will reduce the value of the gun, as originality is important in a collectable piece. Buy the Gamefair gun and get it fitted, use it, and if you decide you want a high condition collectable at a later time, get one. Very sound advice, IMO.
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I've been pleased with purchases from Paul Crusnoe.
Jerry Goldstein
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Paul Crosnoe and John Allen are both very reputable and fair. John is a personal friend of mine, known him for about 30 years or so. Either one of these guys will treat you right.
Having said that, the l.o.p on the Game Fair gun is very short, and that would be a big issue for me. I would prefer a 30"-barrelled gun for target work also. The comb on the Crosnoe gun is high enough that it can be shaved down to fit you perfectly as well.
Being original and more suited to the purpose, the Crosnoe gun just sounds a lot better to me, even considering the price difference.
JR
Last edited by John Roberts; 12/30/11 04:11 PM.
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For those that know John - does he sale guns that he has on consignment for others or is he mostly selling guns that he owns?
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