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There was a distinct difference between the Army of Northern Virginnia & the Army of Tennessee. Forrest was in Lee's army only in the sense that he was a part of the CSA. Not many commands to the Army of Tennessee came directly from Lee. Understand I stand at attention when Dixie is played & have the greatest respect for both Lee & Forrest. I am a member of the SCV with two G-Grandfathers who served the Confederacy. One of them rode in the Starnes/McLemore 4th TN cavalry who spent a lot of time riding with Forrest. He in fact had a nice little ride across North Al following one Abel Streight who was tricked ino surrendering without a battle.

It is also noted that none of the Army of Tennesse were surrendered by Lee at Appomattox. Only the Army of Northern Virginnia was surrendered there. This was thus not the official ending of the war as is so often stated. In Fact there was never an "Official" surrender of the CSA. The different Generals surrendered their armies & ceased fighting. Gen Joseph E Johnston surrendered the Army of Tennessee to General Sherman 17 days later in North Carolina. Both of my G-Grandfathers received their "Pardon" at this time at Greensborough NC. If I remember correctly Forrest surrendered his men a little later still in Mississippi.

When I said it was not a "Civil" war I did not mean this in the sense that some have said "No War is Civil". This war simply did not meet the criteria of a Civil War. The Southern states removed themselves from the USA & established a New Government, the CSA. They never tried to Take Control of the Government of the USA, just wanted to be seperate from it. It was thus a war between two nations with their own Governments, not two factions of the same country fighting for control of One Government.

"gettysburg is the price the south paid for robert e. lee"...a quote from noted civil war historian shelby foote...you know the guy from mississippi who wrote the massive three volume work titled:

"THE CIVIL WAR, A NARRATIVE"...

nit picking about weather the civil war was a civil war or not is like a lot of posts on this forum...much to do about nothing...before this country was two countries for a brief four years, did you not know that is was one country from about 1781 until 1861?

My teachers, until I was in college, referred to it as "The War Between the States.

Best,

Mike

No, ed, you're wrong as wrong can be. It most certainly is NOT 'much ado about nothing". What it is, is striving to preserve an accurate history and prevent future generations of Americans from learning a faulty account of the history of this great country, and the history of those two separate nations, one of which was the Confederate States of America.

I helped recharter the Brig. Gen. John C. Carter SCV camp many years ago for the sole reason I just stated. Politically correct history is not history at all, and the accounts of the WBTS that are being foisted upon unknowing school-children, and an uninterested and uninformed public need to be exposed for exactly what they are, lies. Lies that are told to make people feel better about themselves.

Much ado about nothing ? Hardly. My ancestors who died for the cause, and their families who lost them to it, would not have thought so, either.

For someone who, at times seems to be true student of history, you sure got that one wrong.

SRH

Well Said Stan, Well Said Indeed.

I agree Stan. I was fortunate enough to have a decent history teacher when I was in high school back in the early 70's. When we got to the WBTS the first thing he did was throw the politically correct text book on the desk and taught history the way it should be taught, that is, NO LIES. Lesson #1 was that the war was fought over states rights and not over slavery as the book said. That first lesson opened up a new world for me and history. It's time that we trash all of the new history books and tell the truth.

Amen to Stan & 2-Piper !

My G-G-Grand Dad served in Lee's Army of Northern Virginia, and others in the Army of Tennessee and the Missouri Partisan Rangers.

There are two sides (at least) to every story.

Amen to that, Suh. Ed Good knows as much about American History as the Pope knows about fornication (thanks to my favorite 20th Century American general- George Smith Patton Jr.) General Lee needed to re-supply his troops, and there was a Union shoe factory in Cashville near Gettysburg- Lee also had hoped that by striking a telling blow in the North, and Gettysburgh was the first battle in the War of Northern Aggression that took place above the mason-Dixon line, the Union with their "revolving door Generals, few of whom were West Pointers, and even one was commissioned a brigader general as a pay-off for a political favor and had NO military experience whatsoever- and his troops bled big time at Gettysburg for that-- Lee strung his lines in their move North through Maryland in PA- and his "LRRP" recon unit- the General J.E.B. Stuart calvary, was out of communication all the time- a major mistake, along with Ewell's reticence to follow the principles of Frederick The Great-- "Audace, audace, toujours audace"--

I grew up in the Queen City, and we were a whole hella of a lot more Dixie than Yankee-I may live in a Northern State, but my heart will always be with Dixie-- Damn War between The States (there wasn't anything Civil about it) like so many other major FUBARS in our Country's history- brought about by some damn meddling busybody woman and her stupid book-- There was slavery in the North at that time- indentured servants, the miners and RR workers who never got out of debt to the Company owned and run store--then Miss Julia Ward Howe chimed in- with her "terrible Swiss sword"-- the only good thing she ever did for America was to give writer John Steinbeck- albiet in the next Century- a great title for his dust bowling novel--

To slur the name of the great General Lee as Ed did with his half-assed remark about Gettysburg--I'll challenge this idiot torch-bearing shotgun destroyed to a duel- Pistols for two, Coffee for One- I'll take my Irish style, thankee- a shot of Bushmills will do just about right!!

guys: i too have ancestors who fought and died in the civil war, on both sides. suggest you all read mcpherson's fine one volume history of the civil war, "the battle cry of freedom", and then come back and discuss the subject with a more informed and less biased view...

also, keep in mind that it is the winners who get to write history, and not the losers.