doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Marcel Donckier 1926

Andrew Jno. Hy. & Co. Ltd. Toledo steel works, Sheffield England.

They are listed under hammers in an 1895 source as an importer of goods into western Australia.

The name shows up on a wide assortment of guns. I do not believe they were making barrels, but rather acted as an agent. Sorta like an Ithaca SKB or a Garcia Beretta.

Pete

I can't say if Jno. Hy. Andrew & Company was making tubes in Australia but the firm seems to be a conglomerate that moved into a steel making center and absorbed existing firms, possibly made some modification to the existing infrastructure then injected their Toledo steel recipe, which looks to have arrived on the scene in 1906 and may have been time varying. In the U.S. of A. they were under the name Newman-Andrew Company:

http://books.google.com/books?id=dr4cAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA393&lpg=RA1-PA393&dq=Andrew+Jno.+Hy.+%26+Co.+Ltd.+Toledo&source=bl&ots=VW2tcKMxJB&sig=FyE-zYEs-iTms1jY5afdWz7MqmY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Qt71TuS1IcK1twf1xIS5CA&ved=0CCAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Andrew%20Jno.%20Hy.%20%26%20Co.%20Ltd.%20Toledo&f=false

http://trade.mar.cx/toledo
Trademark info

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I've been told many times that wear like that on the bbl flats is a sure sign that a gun is going off the face or is off the face.

BTW: a gun can be tight and off the face.

OWD

I have an Emil Warnant 16 ga Belgium gun that is near identical. My proof date is d which I think is 1925. BEAUTIFUL WORKMANSHIP!
IT APPEARS THE SAME PERSON ENGRAVED MINE AS THE ENGRAVING PATTERN IS NEAR THE SAME.

Per the gunsnith that checked it out. This gentleman has the knowledge and expirence to assess the situation.

...As I said before it is a very nice gun and very well built. The gun is not off-the-face but it may be a bit harder fitted than it should be. The marks on the flats of the action may could indicate a set of barrel �bouncing� in firing due to looseness but in this case it is my opinion that it is due to other reasons and it would be my guess that it is a bit hard fitted at the top of the standing breech or by the 3rd fastener forcing the barrels down on the flats to a degree greater than it maybe should be. Is this a problem? No! as long as lower pressured ammo is used. In extreme cases the corner where the standing breech meets the flats of the action (water table) the action could crack from being over stressed. I have never seen this happen in shotguns but I have seen this in double rifles that were fired more than average.

Very nice gun!

Why does that look like Black Walnut?

Stunning, but would have expected euro walnut?

I like it!

Best,
Mark