An ill-fitted gun is more apparent with longer barrels--the sight elevation as you look uphill, up the rib is immediately apparent. With a shorter barrel, fitting may be even more crucial, to lock in the right elevation, since minor changes might not appear so much to the eye. Some guns just seem better than others with shorter barrels. (of course the autos and pumps add six inches to the sight plane because of the top of the action.)One thing is sure--they are handy in the grouse woods, and maybe for quail situations at times. Another reason why the full chokes on drillings could have benefitted from screw in chokes or more open chokes. They are largely woods guns, and the shorter barrels don't bang into the trees, but full chokes and grouse don't mix that well without spreader loads. Steve