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I had one of the AyA XXV's in 20ga. Nice gun to carry, but I could not do much with it at skeet. Also had one of the old Uggies imported by Parker-Hale, 28ga in XXV configuration. Even worse, as far as hitting anything, than the AyA. I think Churchill's concept worked better on guns that weigh a bit more than a many short-nosed 20's or 28's. As I noted above, putting additional weight on a 25" gun, like that BT on an SKB 280 20ga, definitely helps me.
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Here's a AE Fox 16 gauge with 20" and 25" barrels. One cool woodcock and grouse gun for here in the northeast. Also, check out the rounded stock cheeks as were intro'd years later on SP Foxes. Factory record card is marked "Special". Silvers 
I AM SILVERS, NOT SLIVER = two different members. I'm in the northeast, the other member is in MT.
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Are both sets of barrels serialized to the gun?
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Yes both barrels are serialed to the frame. And so are the stock, forend wood and iron. Those Foxy types here will also note the wrist is a little longer than typical for a capped pistol grip Fox..... Special notation on the card. Silvers
I AM SILVERS, NOT SLIVER = two different members. I'm in the northeast, the other member is in MT.
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Good article on a couple of 25's in this isue of DGJ...
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The old golf pro I apprenticed with once said to me"Laddy, you don't have to be dumb to play this game well, but it sure doesn't hurt". His point of course was the less thinking you do about what you do, the better.
I guess I have taken that into every motor skill endeavour I do, like golf, baseball,water sking and shooting.
I might have found things more difficult if I shot at many crossers, but hunting the Uplands to the exclusive, I have never had any problem shooting any of the guns I have gone afield with, whether they utilized 26 inch tubes or 30 inchers.
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... Longer might have an edge for crossing shots, but if both guns are balanced at the same point what's the advantage of one over the other? I think the difference (some call it an advantage) is that longer barrels, even if balanced exactly the same as shorter, will have a different moment of inertia and will therefore both acquire and shed momentum more slowly than shorter barrels. That is, the longer barrels will take longer to get moving and will keep moving in a swing when shorter barrels could and would stop. Balance fore and aft is one thing, momentum in swinging the gun, another. Not necessarily so, Dave. I have shot a Valmet O/U, that belongs to a close friend, that has 36" "waterfowl" barrels. They are so well struck and balanced (don't even have a top rib) that you would think you were shooting a good handling 30" Perazzi. They are absolutely amazing to swing, and are equally so to look at. The look more like 16 ga. than 12 ga., which is what they are. You just can't say that long barrels are harder to get moving and harder to stop. It's all in where the weight is deposited in the gun. or, as Don describes it, the compactness of the gun. JMO, SRH You're quite correct. Re-reading what I wrote, I think I meant and was trying to say what you said, only you said it much better than I did.
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