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"The lever always works the same direction."

Not true. I've seen a couple English sidelocks with the lever reversed.

Also, there was a guy here a few weeks ago who had a Scott with a reversed lever.

OWD

The pictures of the (vy nice!) 1925 Holland DR show disk set strikers very well in the sixth photo from the top. Having this set up makes it much simpler to replace a damaged/broken firing pin.

I find it interesting on the southpaw 1925 rifle that, while it has the reversed triggers and left rolled guard, the only clue to its original orientation in the Holland spec sheet is the cast measurements - all cast-on. I would have thought they'd have noted "left hand" specifically. And the cheek piece has disappeared...

Articulated front trigger [allows trigger to fold forward] takes out most of the pinch your finger might receive when firing the rear trigger, as the front trigger can slam back into your finger during the heavy recoil.

400 - I'll take your word for it, but it sure looks like something is going on over on the left-hand side.

One would think that if it was a lefty that would be mentioned up front and center. Odd.

I take that back - I copied it into a photo editor and played with it. There is some weird shadow and the background cloth is folded odd. May not be anything at all.

Beautiful gun.

Brent

Mike:

Royal double rifles come standard with the Baker extended top tang. Except for the old Scott built stuff, I've never seen a Holland sidelock DR that didn't have it. Same for disc set strikers. I imagine that they currently come standard with the articulated trigger, although you don't need it. Hold the gun properly and your trigger finger won't get smacked when firing the left. In 20 years of DR shooting, I've never had that happen, and I've never owned one with an articulated trigger.

I had an 1880's Scott SLNE with a backwards lever. Triggers also appeared oriented for a lefty, although it was not cast that way (but stock may have been replaced), nor did it fire left barrel first. Pushing the lever to the L, rather than pulling it to the R, was not a hard thing to get used to.

This isn't true. Doubles custom built for southpaws with left swinging top levers aren't all that unusual. A while back I handled a nice pair of Dumoulin DRs, .470 and .375, built for a left handed shooter. A good friend, who is a southpaw, wanted them, but couldn't get past the left-swinging top levers.



I wasn't relying on photos. The gun is stocked with cast-on.



None of this is true. Steven, rumour has it that you're a pretty sharp shotgun guy, but you have a lot to learn about double rifles.

I'd have to say .400 Nitro that from some of the pictures and comments I've seen and heard, he ( SDH ) does some pretty fine rifle work as well. Anyway I have emailed Hollands ref your semi beavertail comments and am waiting to see what Patrick comes back with. I tested a .375 at their rifle range with a semi beaver and much preferred it to the .470 I also tried with a splinter. By the way neither guns had articulated triggers and I fired 4 rounds from the .470 and about 15 from the .375. The only time I did get stung was once when I left my thumb on the safety on the .375. rgds, Mike Bailey

Conventional rifles and double rifles are very distant relatives.

The lug issue with beavertails in shotguns is usually encountered in high volume shooting and seems to be a function of cycles. With heavy double rifles, the problem is raw recoil. Spend some time looking at double rifles in the repair shops. I've seen enough sheared lugs with beavertail fore-ends to not want such on one of mine.

I have to agree with 400NE. When firing a double rifle the leading hand should encompass the forend and grasp the barrels. The trick is not to obscure the rib and sights. Its not like shooting off a standing or seated rest. However, a rest is useful for regulation. But even with the rest the regulator will grasp the barrels and rest his arm. The final elevation on the sights needs to be accomplished while standing and grasping the barrels. Its kinda like the difference between a sling and no sling on a bolt rifle.

Phil