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Greg, you are, as always, quite welcome. You ask interesting questions which I enjoy!!
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Rocketman. Sounds useful. Is this something you publish?
Socialism is almost the worst.
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Greg, I can't recall what LOP you take, but I would not look at that extension as a negative for myself. Remove the extension, replace with a nice pad, easy to get anything from 14 1/2-15". If I were thinking light game gun, however, one negative might be the weight. You get to 7# and you're no longer talking real Brit game gun weight, IMO.
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Hello Col. If, I were to get this one, the extension would be gone. My LOP is 14 1/4". I'd have it plated to cut down the weight issue (which I agree 100% is heavy for a game gun). That would take off at least a couple Oz. I asked Charlie to re-weigh the gun, so we'll see.
Good hearing from you and hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
All the best!
Greg
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Better go back and read my first reply several times until it sinks in 
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I'm a little confused here. If, as stated, it is a Birmingham gun how would it have "London fine rose & scroll engraving"? It just doesn't look like a 6K gun to me.
Just Curious, George Always be willing to read "London style" where "London" is written. The engravers in London were certainly not the only ones capable of such work. Birmingham would have been chock-o-block with men who could have accomplished this engraving. People get a little over enthousiastic about associating London with various aspects of guns.
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Hello Col. If, I were to get this one, the extension would be gone. My LOP is 14 1/4". I'd have it plated to cut down the weight issue (which I agree 100% is heavy for a game gun). That would take off at least a couple Oz. I asked Charlie to re-weigh the gun, so we'll see.
Good hearing from you and hope you had a great Thanksgiving!
All the best!
Greg Same to you, Greg. Family for a couple days; currently staying out of the woods while rifle deer season winds down. Will chase some more pheasants and grouse before things shut down, barring heavy snow. Hope the season is going well for you! I really like skeleton butts when the LOP is correct.
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A small point on engravers of this period, Harry Kell, Soho address, London engraver, engraved many "Brum" guns in the Rose & Scroll used on the London Guns & Double Rifles. Doug Tate gave me that Info' when MMcI and Self wrote the artical on the Fred Scales gun.(Now has the 'Last Chapter in Vic Ventors,'Gun-Craft'Book. One of the best books of the current crop. CC/dt
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A small point on engravers of this period, Harry Kell, Soho address, London engraver, engraved many "Brum" guns in the Rose & Scroll used on the London Guns & Double Rifles. Doug Tate gave me that Info' when MMcI and Self wrote the artical on the Fred Scales gun.(Now has the 'Last Chapter in Vic Ventors,'Gun-Craft'Book. One of the best books of the current crop. CC/dt XC, have you an estimate on turn time for such engraving by Kell? I seem to have "learned" somewhere that London engravers did the Boss house pattern in about three days. True or unlikely?
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Rocket-man, In my many Hrs spent with Ken Hunt both sitting Harry Kells old wooden chair in the Old Broadwick St W/Shop.and on my Trips Back to "Merrie Olde" England, Ken had many pages of handwritten pages of Kells Timesheets....But alas like the sand through the egg-timer,most have been lost.If memory serves, McItosh & self wrote a 2 Part artical on the Kell Dynasty in Shooting Sportsman and we mentioned some of the times that were taken for engraving jobs...I do have in my "Olde-Stuff" a handwritten note to Kell from someone at,I think Purdeys,saying "My Man will return in(A very short time) to pick-up the Matched Pair of Guns, and the Monograms will be finished in the Gold Ovals!......Try that to-day!!!!!CC/dt
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