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Received for a close friend on friday a NID 16, serial 4496XX, a 1927 vintage gun, I believe. Cocking indicators are present. The gun came from Wildwood, and was cheap, about $1000. Not mentioned by the dealer, was a nasty crack in the wrist, which caught my eye.


Ted...Ted you're his bud I'd figure you could advise him alittle better than this.

If I had purchased it from Wildwood and the wrist had a nasty crack...it would've been boxed back up and shipped back to them with'n the hour.
I'm not much on repairing cracked wrists I don't care how good it looks it's not as good as a gun that's not cracked.

"He likes the gun a bunch."
These are the keywords!
More and more, I find guys digging up stuff(read BS) about their guns to make themselves happy about them.
If the ol'boy is happy - he's happy!- end of story.
This is more than I can say about 75% of the membership here, who seem to need to conjure-up BS.

Well, the NID sure isn't a gun I know much about. But if said buddy had WANTED the gun boxed back up, I 'woulda done so.

But, he likes it.

Now, as to repairs to cracked wood, I've seen some jobs done by experts (not you, jOe) that defy detection-David T has had photos of a few here that are superlative. It can be done.

In this case, it won't be-just a good repair to put it back into the field.

As to "not as good as a gun that is not cracked" well, you are simply full of pooh, jOe. Many are the prepubescent junior high school girls who understand that a correctly done glue joint is stronger than the wood around it-they paid attention in wood shop. Did you?

I suppose resale might be a concern, excepting the fact said friend has never sold a gun he bought. He has no intention of selling any, either. His guns are very much like the 1967 Pontiac GTO he purchased for $700 in 1979, and has to this day. Yes, people laughed at him for buying that gas hog when you couldn't even get fuel back then, but, lets just say, he is laughing a bit today, inspite of the fact he never intends to sell the car. I am not privledged as to exactly what "speaks" to him about this gun, but, it would seem it does.

I do know he prefers to hunt with guns that have been hunted before, and so much the better if they have the scars to prove it, especially if his ancesters put a few of the scars in them. He would simply NEVER refinish dad's or grandpa's old guns, and is quite happy they aren't "mint, collectable" examples. Perhaps the memories of some of the hunting with his kin are more valuable then percent of condition left on the guns they used.

Takes all kinds, I guess. Oh yea, he is infatuated with the 16 gauge loading as well. He has been looking for a NID 16 for a while.

Anyway, just to make you happy (not) I did offer up that we could return it, and look about for another. He politely declined. Said he would speak to the seller a bit on monday about a repair adjustment. Asked for Kearcher's phone number. Thanked me.

Like Thorny said, that is what it is all about.
Best,
Ted

They didn't mention the crack because they knew they could give your buddy a discount on the gun once he had it in his hands.

This is an old trick dealers use to move stuff that's messed up.

It's also pretty sleazy. Those guys up at Wildwood saw the crack. I'm certain they brought it up when they were buying the gun.

Now your friend will be out shipping both ways if he sends it back.

You're friend is being played. I would send it back ASAP.

Buyers beware.

OWD

Ted, I kept both guns they "pawned" off on me without mentioning the very obvious damage each of them had. I paid top dollar but I wouldn't have kept them if they hadn't sent money back for the repairs. And I agree with o-w-d, it's just the way they do business. Sleazy as it is, it's one way to get a hard to find gun if you don't mind a repaired one and if your final out of pocket expense is some what in line with what you actually got. I'm sure your friend will get an adjustment in price if he indicates he has no problem sending the gun back without one.

Larry

Ted, if it's still within the return period and your friend wants one with absolutely no issues, which he can probably buy for a little more than $1,000, contact me at miclarry@netins.net and I'll give you more details. Gun used to belong to me, NID 16 of about the same vintage, all original except a pad added, no cracks, spotless bores, 28" M/F. It was a bit low for me, and on the heavy side.

I'm glad he's happy. I'm sure it's not everyday Wildwood gets to sell a guy a gun with a cracked stock and he's jumping for jOy.

Just don't try and convince me a repaired cracked stock is stronger than one that's not...you can save that one for yOur prepubescent junior high school girls.

Yeow j0e! that last sentence sounds a little ol' sodish matey.
Might want to strike that one out hmmmmm?

Heck Lowell I don't even know what "prepubescent" means....since that big wOrd came from Ted maybe he will tell us.

Homeless,

Why do you feel the need to capitalize your "O"s? From your posts you appear to be a nice fellow from TN.

Phil