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RedoTx,

Congrats on your purchase. Jon has done the heavy lifting here in terms of dating your gun. The brevete marks on the breech face denoting the A&D patent use number combined with the serial number and features of your gun provide a pretty good indicator of the gun's age. Your description of the features and marks on your Daly is exactly what would be expected of a Daly diamond model 200 of this vintage (minus the blued barrels). BTW, your gun was not already recorded in the database. I know the board would love to see photos when you have them available.

At the time your gun was produced, SD&G used the umbrella term "diamond quality" to encompass two Daly models - one hammerless and one with hammers. The model 200 was SD&G's top hammerless model at this time and retailed for $250 - quite a sum of money. Later the term "diamond quality" encompassed a half Daly dozen models. All were the models ornate , but still varied quite bit in level of embellishment and price.

A rounded pistol grip would be correct for a Lindner Daly of this vintage.

The use of horn on Lindner guns is common on the forend tip and buttplate. It has been noted on at least two trigger guards on Lindner sourced guns to Continental supplier. The final place it is sometimes seen is on the base of the rounded pistol grip. To be clear, the feature is not a grip cap but a small ovalish horn projection on the very bottom of an otherwise rounded pistol grip. (I'm actually not certain of the correct term for the feature).

I'd highly recommend the 2-part Pfingsten and Mann DGJ articles. The will answer a lot of questions about Lindner and some of his outworkers (engravers.)

Congrats again on your gun. The damascus underneath the bluing should be spectacular.

Best regards,
Ken

Well, I am back a little earlier than expected from my meetings in central Tx. I am posting these picturs so that others can see and hopefully provide more information. I apologize, I am not the best picture taker. If I need to take another picture of another part of the shotgun, please let me know. I guess we'll never know who "LE" is stamped on the barrels. Ken Georgi, pm has been sent to you.





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thanks.
redoftx.

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that's all folks.
thanks, redoftx.

Hi Red- The grip cap I mentioned is a small blob of horn on the bottom of the half pistol grip. Ours differ in the engraving pattern and tear drops. That on mine is a much finer scroll with partridge on the frame bottom and a realistic setter on the trigger plate. Ducks on the trigger guard. The checkering is so fine my old eyes can't count the lines per inch- not less than 28-30 lines per inch. I've never seen such small diamonds. Pointed, not flat. All in all, fine guns. Over on Not SSM BBS, Pooch has found still yet another much like these. The economy seems to have shaken a few out of the wood work.

I own the Lindner that Doug Mann restocked and when i get back from hunting today will post some photos of her and both sets of barrels.

If it is any interest, I am hunting today and have done so all season with a Lindner FW. She weighes a scant 5 pound 9 ounces and is as deadly as a viper and twice as fast as a harlot. To date she has put season limits of pheasants from three states in the freezer with but two misses.

I have far more fine doubles than a man should be allowed, but I just can not bring myself to use one of them instead of her.

RCC, photos welcomed and appreciated. I would like to learn more about these shotguns. I will try to find some old periodicals of the references already posted.

Is this engraving typical of the era? The dogs certainly don't look like the ones on my D grade Parker or C grade Lefever. I weighed mine when I got home, and it is a hefty 7lbs. 8oz. But there may be 6oz of bluing on these barrels, HA! Cary, the checkering, I measured as per my crude little gauge is 22lpi. I sure thought it looked finer in the store.

This one is no closet queen. I only got it this way. I'll try to find someone to take off the blue and bring out the damascus. That's all I plan to do to it.

thank you, redoftx.

OK, I am back from my morning's hunt. The little Lindner put three nice birds in the bag that are as I type, marinating in yogurt in preparation for the grill this evening. Here is a photo of the FW and the Diamond grade I bought from Doug.

Bob: to my eye, those "Turc Extra" or Extra-fine 4 Iron Turkish "Star" pattern barrels are the most attractive damascus produced. Note the alternating 'stars' of black (iron) and white (steel) between the symmetric scrolls.
This is Dr Gaddy's example from his Pattern Board



Could you please post high resolution ultra close up images, or send by jpg attachment to revdoc2@cox.net and thanks!
Drew

And I believe redoftx will find a spectacular herringbone pattern underneath the blueing.

Drew,

I will do so, but I need to take new photos of the browned Herringbone barrels before I do. I really do not have any good photos of that barrel as I do the Turc Extra barrels, which by the way, are to my eye the most beautiful barrels ever struck.

I will try to get that done this weekend.