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In the US, hulls are paper/plastic empty cases, cartridges are loaded brass or steel rifle ammunition.

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Brits, call screws pins, they call the tool to remove pins a turn screw, why isn't it a turn pin?

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After checking the oil on my car I closed the "bonnet". laugh Seriously I have no problem reading British English. The only time I get frustrated is on some of the Brit comedies I watch on Public TV (Teli). They talk waaaay too fast and I miss some good jokes.


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Actually the reason we call it a screw driver and they call it a turn screw makes a fair comment on the national character of both peoples. When the Brits drive in a screw they are already thinking about taking it back out. In and out, in and out, always screwing around. By God, when we drive a screw it stays screwed. Even if we have to use lock tite and an impact driver. See, different strokes.
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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Originally Posted By: 2-piper
While we're on terminology I & the British will continue to refer to cuttin off a set of bbls, boring out the chambers & inserting new tubes as "Sleeving", not Monoblocking.


Seems to me that depends on whether you're building a gun from scratch or restoring one with trashed barrels. Best to use "monoblocking" for the former and "sleeving" for the latter, to make the distinction clear.


Larry, Just to make it Absolutely Clear, Name me "One"; Just One; instance where any gunmaker has ever built a monoblock set of bbls in which they first ""CUT OFF" a set of bbls. If you had read & absorbed what I posted it would have been very obvious I was speaking of the "LATER" as any fool could plainly see, YOU SEE. That last is a phrase my departed Dad was fond of, but it did sorta fit here.


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"Mono" = 1

This does not seem difficult.


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Language is continuously in fluctuation. Dictionaries don't define our languages, they simply reflect what has become common usage. Webster's adds and changes new words and their definitions every year. The word "tweet" got a new definition added, not changed, a few yrs back. That was based on what the people were using in their vocabulary. Browsing Webster's will reveal many words with more than one definition.

They'll be those that believe that a word has only one meaning, while others will use it to describe something different. It's not law. It's whatever people come to use frequently enough that others understand them. People start using terms and words for other than their original definitions everyday. Some catch on and become common. Common useage defines a word or term.

Frankly, if you'd have asked 100 machinists that didn't know guns and gun terminology what they would call the process of cutting off barrels by the breach and boring the chambers, then soldering in some new barrels, I doubt you'd get many if any that would come up with "sleeving". I think most of that group would call what Teague is doing "sleeving" rather than "lining". But that word was already taken. grin

And what about those other Brit cousins that eat that haggis stuff? Yuk! laugh

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A gun that has the barrels cut off ahead of the chambers is not neccesarily a "mono bloc". The "bloc" could have been made from many pieces at the time of construction. The only gun that should be referred to as a "monobloc" is a gun whose barrel breech section is one piece of steel or aluminum with tubes inserted. A gun whose barrels are cut off ahead of the chambers after initial construction and tubes inserted is considered to have been "sleeved". It may have been made as a monobloc or it may not have been made as a monobloc.

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Never used a turn screw ,always used screw drivers .The use of the word pin rather than screw come from the dim distant past .We also use the term nails ,I was told as a young man it went back to the days of muzzleloaders . The barrel and furnitures being held on to the stock by what was in effect a nail or pin.
There was a now almost forgotten expression for a hammer as a"Brummie screw driver" .

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Larry was trying to get "sleeved" but instead he got 'piped again laugh

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