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Sam Ogle #248446 10/18/11 09:46 AM
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I know unsatisfactory work for sure, I see it in every post you make.

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Post some pics big bOy. grin

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Didn't figure we'd see any pictures.

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I've seen examples of Ken's work and to me he is a Master Craftsman. JMHO

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Sam Ogle #248567 10/19/11 12:49 PM
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I have seen the work in question and while nothing special the real problem, I believe,was specific instructions were ignored, and the client didn't get what he wanted and paid for. Follow up communication was clearly lacking which has only made a small issue a matter of contention. It happens. I have seen a bit of Mr. Hurst's work. It was very, very nicely done. His style is accessible and I can see why it appeals to some people who have had limited exposure to truly great engravers. Every good artisan has his audience, Mr.Hurst deservedly has his.

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That sounds like a "Dis"... especially in the penultimate line?
not my business, but there ya go
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Sam Ogle #248575 10/19/11 01:41 PM
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There are no pictures of that crap, it's already been struck off and destroyed. That's how much I hated it, I got angry every time I looked at it. I would never have bad mouthed Hurst on a public forum but I've tried to contact him for a resolution multiple times. His lack of response tells me that he knows he did substandard work but doesn't want to own up to it. Hence my running comments everytime his name comes up.


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Originally Posted By: 11F
I have seen the work in question and while nothing special the real problem, I believe,was specific instructions were ignored, and the client didn't get what he wanted and paid for. Follow up communication was clearly lacking which has only made a small issue a matter of contention. It happens. I have seen a bit of Mr. Hurst's work. It was very, very nicely done. His style is accessible and I can see why it appeals to some people who have had limited exposure to truly great engravers. Every good artisan has his audience, Mr.Hurst deservedly has his.


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I have also seen examples Mr. Hurst's work as well and I have an understanding of his background in America and the styles of engraving he has mastered. I have also seen most of the masters of engravers engraving work in the UK today. I do not have limited exposure to great engravers, but that is not needed as I am not writing a reply to demonstrate what I purport to know about engraving.

I could contemplate that the person raising this complaint could not afford "truly great" engravers such as the likes Phil Coggan or his son Simon--I do not know that either; and instead decided upon an engraving style that was more "accessible"---whatever that means.

I think that the compliant here on this post is disgraceful. Where is the evidence that work is not what was contracted? You raise the issue of instructions to the engraver. That is a good point--show them. As far as I am concerned the complaint is without merit and verges upon slander until evidence is produced to the contrary. If I were Mr. Hurst I would engage a solicitor.

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I had some work done by Mr. Hurst in 2006. He did an outstanding job and his price was very reasonable. I have also seen other work he has done that was very tastefull as well.

I know others who did not care for the work he had performed and as in the case with Destry, there was a breakdown of communication at some point.

I would recommend him to anyone that was in need of engraving services. However, as with any type of work, it is best to make sure you and the craftsman are on the same sheet of paper.

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When I recently discussed an engraving project with Ken, he required that I send him images of the layout I wanted, and of the birds and dog, so there would be no misunderstanding of expectations.

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