There is nothing better than starting a young boy off properly with a good vintage double. My son took this big bird a few years ago with a 99% original condition .410 L.C. Smith at about 15 yards. He went on his first dove hunt this month with my ex-father in law and took a little 20ga L.C. Smith Field Grade. All the grown ups he was hunting with had 12ga autos and pumps. He was shooting 2.5" RSTs and managed to kill two doves. No pics of that as I wasn't there.