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Foxes, Parkers, Bosses, Purdeys, M21, Brownings... There are a ton of good looking guns being sold over the next couple days. Read all about it and get links to the guns: http://www.dogsanddoubles.com/A couple of the rarest I saw: a first-generation H&H Royal in 16g and a 20 gauge by Baltimore Arms. Thanks OWD
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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If that Baltimore Arms gun was a 20-bore, it really would be a rare find; but it is a 16-bore (an interested friend called on the gun and had chambers measured). I don't recall that Baltimore Arms ever made a 20-bore?
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Snipped bbls? 26" seems short.
I've never seen a Balt Arms 20g. That's why it caught my eye.
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I don't have a Baltimore Arms catalog; but would think that 26" barrels were cataloged for 16-bore guns, as they certainly were offered by other period makers on their 16-bores. Perhaps Researcher will chime in shortly, as he is an expert on BA guns.
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I have two Baltimore Arms Co. catalogues, but I'm about two-thirds of the country away from them. I know Philadelphia Arms Co. only catalogued 28-, 30- and 32-inch barrels, but I can't recall on BAC. In their 1900 model BAC only offered 12-gauges in A-, B- and C-Grades. By the 1902 model they'd added the Trap Gun and the D-Grade, and 16-gauge guns. My only 16-gauge is a 30-inch B-Grade rat of a 1902 model. I've not yet seen and handled a 16-gauge in the 1904 model, and that gun is a 1904 model. Looks like a B-Grade receiver, but C-grade or higher wood. Might be a gun assembled from parts sold at the receivership in 1904. Looks kind of interesting.
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Researcher,
Just couldn't stand it ... bought the Baltimore and would love to discuss more when it arrives. The pictures are terrible but appears to have more engraving than a "B" grade, but no "game scene" as a "C" might have ???
The engraving on the trigger bow is interesting and looks "factory" .... neat gun even if the barrels are cut !!
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JB32-
Please share here when you get the gun. I would love to learn more about it. It looked real interesting.
How were the other lots? Were prices strong?
Thanks
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I was phone bidding on the Baltimore (really liked this gun for whatever "weird reason") and an Ideal and Specialty (wrongly described as it was a pre '13 grade 2) LC Smith's ...
I played "bride's maid" on both ... 2150 on the 20 Ga. Ideal and 1800 on the Grade 2 12 ga.
Both guns were worth the money as condition looked good (lot of case on the Ideal), both had ejectors ... 12 ga grade2 was HOT !?!?
Young man I spoke with said they had a "spirited auction" ...
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"Hot" would not be a word I would use to describe the Grade 2 Smith. I guess the Ideal can be cleaned up to be worth the selling price, but I would not be paying it. I would like to know what the Browning Trombone went for. It was nice. What about the Model 42? Anyone have a comment on the Model 21?
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