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I not very good with the engraves and if it's not Kornbrath I get confused. There were just not a lot of free lance engravers that I know about back then. Engraving is an area that I should spend more time trying to learn about.

I don't want to start a rant, okay maybe a small one, but one of the Sedgleys was sold as by the hand of a very famous engraver. It's not, but nobody ask ;-).

Was Gough the shotgun guy who worked for many different companies?


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Yes, Gough did but I don't recall who at the moment. Fox hired him to redesign the engraving for all grade and collectors pretty much like the earlier examples rather than the Gougized revamps. The story is well covered in McIntosh's A.H. Fox book.

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Wm. H. Gough engraved for Parker, Fox, Colt, Meriden, Winchester and others. His 'best' work was good and usually of English scroll or a variant.
His 'production work' which is seen more often than not, is that style of scroll on the floor plates. Alot of liner work on large quick cut layout ment to cover alot of area in a hurry.

The scroll style on the plates themselves is very much 'Gough' layout. That's what caught my attention.
The #2 and 3 more like what you'd see on a Fox second generation layout from his shop with the liner tool used alot instead of the wriggle cut for shading.
I'd hazzard a guess that the 3 are from his shop, and cut by different engravers he had employed at times.

AH Fox hired him to head their engraving dept after WW1. He redesigned most (not all) all original patterns to that larger scroll style. He had a staff of engravers that cut most all the work from his pattern layouts, saving the top jobs for himself understandibly!

He freelansed also doing work for other companys and individuals at the same time. When he moved to Utica NY later as Savage took over Fox, he set up a shop off site to engrave the Fox/Savage guns,,, SxS's, 99's and others and anything else he could get it seems. He did work for Colt & others freelanse at this time too. Even a job or two for Auto Ordnance I believe.
He had a group of engravers working for him then too.

He had a brother, John, that was also an engraver and did work for Winchester.
Their father, Henry, was a Birmingham trained engraver and originally worked for Parker when first coming to the USA.


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Kutter,

Can you identify any of the engravers who worked on Lefever guns from circa 1885 through 1920? Here are photos with those described as early generally being pre-1900, late being 1915 or later. The "Cross bolt guns" at the bottom are 1902 - 1906.

http://www.lefevercollectors.com/index.php?p=1_18_Photos

Thanks!

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