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At least take a good look at the barrels and see if they have any curve downward. You never know who's been doing what before you had the gun. If I saw barrels curved up or down and it was adversely affecting where I wanted it to hit, I'd have no qualms about bending the barrels back straight. Other than that, I'd go with stock comb adjustments for POI elevation changes.

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I thought it should stand to reason that a slightly higher comb will raise my head over the stock a little.

If that's what you want to do how's adding a pad going to help you?...adding length will only move your head back, lower the comb and make it shoot lower.

Go get it properly fitted and bent so it shoots where you're looking...even if the bbls don't shoot straight it will always work for "you"

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Do what Frank LeFever did. Get a thick telephone book and smack the barrels down on it. Shoot it to see if they were raised enough.

If not, hit them against the phone book again. repeat shooting to see if raised enough.

Repeat until satisfied with result.

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Shoot the gun into paper at a measured 16 yds. One barrel only five (5) shells into the same spot without aiming; mount and shoot.

That will tell you actually where your center is with the current stocking. If you want to experiment use blue insulation foam and makes spacers and tape them on to the stock with wide masking (painters) tape. Shoot the paper again at 16 yds. At that point you will know what various height mods will get you. Then go to a really compentatnt shotgun stock guy and talk to him.


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To raise the point of impact on a shotgun you need to raise the comb, either by bending the stock or by otherwise adjusting it upwards. This is done on competition guns with an adjustable comb that allows a wide range of adjustment and functions similar to the rear site on a rifle or pistol. An alternative way is to use moleskin or rubber pads to move the position that your cheek touches the comb upwards. Again this is analogous to the rear site on a rifle or pistol, moving the rear site (or cheek touch point) upwards raises the point of impact.

Pitch does not change point of impact (or if it does it is very minimal). Pitch is used to change the way the gun responds to the way you mount and hold the gun during recoil. If you have face slap when shooting, it is likely an issue of pitch. Pitch is easily adjusted by unscrewing the recoil pad and placing washers or other spacers on the upper (down pitch) or lower (up pitch) side of the pad. This adjustment changes the relative angle of the butt on your shoulder and when the gun fires, the dynamics of the recoil in combination with this angle move the stock either into or away from your face. This is a critical issue for a gun that will fired many times such as a competition gun.

A very good summary of gun fit can be found on this web site by the US Army Marksman Unit.
http://www.shootingusa.com/PRO_TIPS/USAMU2-2/usamu2-2.html

Length of pull will not directly change point of impact but on field guns or guns without a “parallel” comb increasing the length of pull will lower the point of impact since the comb height typically drops from the front to the rear. If you increase the length of pull, you move down this slope and will lower the point of impact.

Hope this helps.

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I think he meant he was going to try a lace/velcro on cheek pad to raise the comb, not a butt pad to increase LOP. But, I could be wrong.

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