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You know what Clif....if the gun is sound and you like it I don't think I would lose too much sleep and have nightmares about it. You could use it to your advantage to get a better price. The Holland I told you about I bought very reasonable IMO and it's a 20 bore because of the botehed proof marks..and mine are worse than yours. Yeah if I decide to sell it I might have some raised eyebrows but for now I have no plans to sell. Just get your ducks in a row and don't sweat it too much. You have to ask yourself just how many Boss 20 ga O/U there are on the used market. Not very darn many....and a new one...you would have to be a billionaire to justify!
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You know what Clif....if the gun is sound and you like it I don't think I would lose too much sleep and have nightmares about it. You could use it to your advantage to get a better price. The Holland I told you about I bought very reasonable IMO and it's a 20 bore because of the botehed proof marks..and mine are worse than yours. Yeah if I decide to sell it I might have some raised eyebrows but for now I have no plans to sell. Just get your ducks in a row and don't sweat it too much. Well if you ask me its a pretty dear gun, and its condition magnificent, don't know if you know this guy but he is reported to have taken it out shooting a time or two while David was restocking it
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Clif. He showed me pictures of GHWB when I was there too holding I believe Boss hammer guns. Just buy the damn thing and go on. It looks like it might have 'provenance' too. HaHa
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In 1925, the "standard" 20-gauge shell in the U.S. was still the 2 1/2 inch case loaded with a max load of 2 1/4 drams equiv. and 7/8 ounce of shot. The Western Cartridge Co. had just introduced their Super-X load in 20-gauge a couple of years earlier, put up in a 2 3/4 inch Field case with a max load of progressive burning smokeless powder and 1 ounce of shot. Even the 3-inch 20-gauge shells, from back in the days of the fabled Widgeon Duck Club Parker Bros. guns and the J. Stevens Arms & Tool Co. No. 200 pump, carried a load of 2 1/2 drams equiv. and 7/8 ounce of shot. A standard Skeet load today!!
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Thanks for all your replies, I talked with the proofmaster and made my decsion. If I am to own it and feel good about it, it will eventually have to be sent in for re-proof plain and simple.
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Aren't you going to share? Come on!
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In England in the 20s the standard cartridge for a 20 gauge 2-1/2" was 2-1/4 drams blackpowder and 3/4oz, 2-3/4" 2-3/4 drams blackpowder and 15/16oz, and 3" 3 drams blackpowder and 1oz. The nitro powder loads mostly ran 1/16oz of shot less. From page 208 and 209 of Burrard's VolumeIII.
I have a Purdey 20 gauge made in 1927 with factory original 2-3/4" chambers and proofed for 1oz that weighs 5-12oz. It also has sideclips and the hidden third bite.
Best,
Mike
Last edited by AmarilloMike; 07/29/11 08:50 PM. Reason: I added [i]"in the 20s"[/i]
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Thanks for all your replies, I talked with the proofmaster and made my decsion. If I am to own it and feel good about it, it will eventually have to be sent in for re-proof plain and simple. Big mistake. Far better to assume the chambers were lengthened and don't go having a proofhouse put a stick of dynamite in it. Instead, have the chamber walls at the forcing cones measured by someone who knows what he's doing. You may find plenty of steel, .150" or even more. No one could ever have been shooting heavy loads in this gun anyway, well maybe once or twice but that's about it. You'll be shooting light loads too. I have nothing against proofing new guns but I think it should be approached with caution in used guns and then not done. Most particularly with an expensive piece of art like a Boss. nial
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Thanks for all your replies, I talked with the proofmaster and made my decsion. If I am to own it and feel good about it, it will eventually have to be sent in for re-proof plain and simple. Big mistake. Far better to assume the chambers were lengthened and don't go having a proofhouse put a stick of dynamite in it. Instead, have the chamber walls at the forcing cones measured by someone who knows what he's doing. You may find plenty of steel, .150" or even more. No one could ever have been shooting heavy loads in this gun anyway, well maybe once or twice but that's about it. You'll be shooting light loads too. I have nothing against proofing new guns but I think it should be approached with caution in used guns and then not done. Most particularly with an expensive piece of art like a Boss. nial Its all good, its a Mona Lisa with a mustache painted on it, but still a work of art nonetheless.
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