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Craigd: If there was a Federal Clown test for eligibility of a hunting license and gun usage I would be certain some would be restricted to usage of a BB gun especially if the Clown Test was only based on hunting experience and shooting ability.

No actually, not bragging or anything but really what I was saying is that I quickly became an expert with it at a young age which could have been attested to by many who shot or hunted with me back then. Only reason I bought a 20 gauge at the time was because I figured it was time to add another gun to the collection which has since grown considerably.

Argh, you stole my thunder. I was going to start a thread about how much better Daisy's were than Mossbergs on pheasant. When my boy was seven, he folded three roosters in a row with his red ryder. Either that or he had a heck of a lot of fun with the .410 around that age even though he hadn't obtained his expert shot rating.

OK, I've tried to stay out of the .410 thread. I think its a silly "guage" good only for reduced recoil introduction of children into the shooting world. Yup, I started out with a .410 an found it to be a giant step up from a Daisy BB gun. But a game gun it ain't.

I still have the Marlin "four-tenner" my Grandfather gave me when I was 10. He said he got it back in the thirtys as a "premium" for buying some stock in the Company. Its a 2.5 inch lever gun and it was a grand up-grade from the Daisy.

I shot my first duck (a blue wing teal) with it many a rabbit. However even with the full choke, it was not a dependable game gun. I remember wounding rabbits with it that I had to dig out of hollow trees or gopher (tortoise) holes (use a slender branch split at the end to poke into the hole and twist to pull'em out).

I still take it out from time to time for "kick-em-up" released quail over dogs and it seems to be adequate for that. I have to go with the guys who say the .410's a joke on wild game...Geo

It aint the arrows, it's the indian.

You guys nose that the foe'ten wilt shoot farther and tight'a than 12 ga ?

HomelessjOe recently took the new federally mandated Clown Test. But how did he score?

I'm rated for a 10 ga.

George and others who don't think the fo'hunnertn' ten is a decent game gun.

I am going to stick my neck out here, and make a promise. Our opening day of dove season is 41 days away. I will shoot opening day afternoon with a new .410 S x S (Yildiz) and report back to this thread (if I can still find it then) on what the outcome was. I cut my teeth on a .410 S x S, but haven't used one on game in about 48 years. I will be shooting 11/16 oz. loads of no. 8 shot, and I give you all my word that I will report is exactly as it happened, dove count and shell count.

If I indeed kill a limit of 15 doves with a respectable number of shells, will any of you concede that the lil' gun may, just may, be a game gun under the right circumstances?

Remember, it only takes one proven positive example to disprove a theoretical negative.

Stan

It IS the arrows, it just ain't the bow.