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Bill,
I was showing how many manufacturing hours are available for a given amount of money, using common burden rates in the manufacturing biz. Hopefully, that gives a perspective of what can be achieved at various costs. At least a ballpark figure anyway.

JR,
I think you're right about the A10. It's listed at $8k today for the basic, no option, gun. I do think the A10 parts count and construction is a good comparator for what mfg a Lefever would be like. Both you and Tom make good points about whether there's enough demand for another vintage designed sxs. Frankly, I think the market is pretty saturated. Nevertheless, it'd be pretty cool to have someone introduce another line of replicas of any of the quality old doubles.

Chuck, you're making more sense in your last statement. However, with your synopsis of hours to make a gun times shop cost, how do you know Tony can't make a $3000 gun in ten hours and make a $2000 profit? I know I'm exaggerating, but "thirty hours to make an RBL after design and setup work"? Tony would get a chuckle out of that.

Bill,
I appreciate your point. I don't know how long it takes. I'd have to work it up based on what I saw and what I know of mfg. If you think he can make a Lefever for $3K, and make money, I will defer to your expertise in manufacturing and gunmaking.

Originaly this project was supposed to be built as a bare metal gun. Wood, engraving, and finnish would be left up to the buyer.If it were ever built as an Optimus that would put it out of reach of 95% of potential buyers. I wish they could have did this at a reasonable cost.

That was my recollection too, Tanky. Under that scenario could the components be provided for 3K? Recently CSMC had some barrel sets on closeout for 700.00, built by Merkel. I wouldn't think that they were taking a loss on them. The point being that components can be had from quality vendors at reasonable cost.

I would find a way to purchase one of the "in the white" project guns if the price was around 3K. I would think that for another 3K you could get it stocked and finished, sans all the glitter. Some minimal, sparse engraving might be in there too.

Chief

chief,
I recently inquired about my order for a set of barrels for my Parker Repro with CSMC. Their reply included a statement that they had ceased taking orders due to the cost of production being higher than anticipated. The price was $1800.

Stocking seems to be something you get what you pay for, more or less.

Chuck,
I've seen the pics of some of the stock work you have done or had done, excellent! That said, I think you can get a very nice stock done up for under 2K. Mine would not have to be exibition wood, to my taste minimal, sparse engraving would look very out of place with better than 2X. The person who wanted more could have it, the basic gun is the same.

I am not proposing that such a project gun could be made for 3K. I have no idea, not in the biz. The closeout barrels were intended for an Ithaca NID or ICD, not Parker. I recall, (and may not be correct) a few project Parker guns that CSMC was recently closing out at around 3K in the white, do you think they lost money on them?

Chief