I thought I would mention The good products and service I got from a company in Italy. I have had trouble finding some of the small gauge roll crimpers in 32 ga and 24 ga. The company is called Gaep at www.gaep.net. I will try to post some pics of some 20 ga and 32 ga shells that I loaded over the weekend. The person that helped me is Charles from Gaep. email is gaep61@gmail.com He also got an old style cranker from another site that I could not get to ship. Technical problems with that site. The Gaep crimpers can be be interchanged in the old style crank crimper with small modification of some washers. These are high quality crimpers that can be used in a hand drill or drill press as well. They look more domed than the us style crimpers.