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Hi all just ordered a Yildiz 28g U/O after having owned one of there 20g guns and been very happy with it and seeing the Australian importer is bringing in some 28g guns I decided to give one a go it seems to me that after doing some research on the little 28g they have an almost mythical reputation the gun is only going to be used on clays anyone care to share there thoughts on the 28g? the 28g is extremly rare in Australia I've never seen one just like things a little different from the norm I can get Kemen shells and possible Winchester (at twice the price) reloading for it at this stage would not be worth the extra expense of components (as stated quite rare in Australia makes it pretty expensive)
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smlekid: I believe you will find the 28 every bit as effective as the 20 for most any purpose. Cartridges are much more expensive however. Especially if you use a 28 at sporting. If you have a copy of W W Greener's "The Gun And It's Development," take a moment to see what old William Wellington had to say about the 28. No greater expert existed.
Best, Kensal
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28ga shells are cute, but expensive. Anything a 28 will do, so will a 20--which you can easily load down to the standard 28ga shot charge of 3/4 oz. 28's are nice at short range targets (like skeet) and small, relatively fragile birds. If built on a true 28ga frame (which many are not--you'll often find they weigh more than the same model in 20ga), they have wonderful carrying and handling characteristics. But if you're just shooting them at clay birds, other than using them in small bore competition events, they don't make a lot of sense. How they carry is not an issue, and you're actually better off with a heavier one vs a lighter one--which, in my book, defeats having one in the first place.
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The 28 gauge fans, of which I am one, have an oft quoted mantra which is just the reverse of L.Brown's. Anything a 20 will do, so will a 28. And I have to disagree with L.Brown in that a 28 is not necessarily a short range target gun or for small, relatively fragile birds. With the proper choke, shot size and appropriate load (and a competent shooter) a 28 will do anything a 20 will do. With the expense of 28 ga. ammo and the possibility of a slightly heavier gun, the only advantage I can think of, considering the scarcity of 28 ga. ammo, is the reduced recoil.
I love the 28 but if I were in your situation I might stick with the 20.
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Larry, they have a place for me for training young shooters. I have been teaching young shooters for many years and the 28 ga in a semiauto like my 1100 Sporting is the way to go. Shells are prohibitive in cost so I buy new hulls from Ballistic and load them on a MEC 600 adapted for 28ga. Apart for training, I have used 28 ga for grouse and pheasants for years and the cartridge performs well above its weight, as many will attest. Load you own is the secret Mikey
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Larry, they have a place for me for training young shooters. I have been teaching young shooters for many years and the 28 ga in a semiauto like my 1100 Sporting is the way to go. Shells are prohibitive in cost so I buy new hulls from Ballistic and load them on a MEC 600 adapted for 28ga. Apart for training, I have used 28 ga for grouse and pheasants for years and the cartridge performs well above its weight, as many will attest. Load you own is the secret Mikey
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The 28 is a pleasant novelty searching for a niche, while the 20 cuts a wide swath with the best of the attributes of the 28 with a much more versatile capability. I don't find a gun less than six pounds shootable; my shooting falls off significantly with very light guns. This is the achilles heel of the 28. When made light as is appropriate to its size, the guns are voluptuous but too light, IMO. Heavier, one might as well have a 20 (and as others here point out, the 20 loaded down is more efficient than the best 28 guage load, and has a top end the 28 can't touch). Many 28s have come and gone with me, and I liked them, but logic ultimately kicked in and my six pound 20 won the day, and still does. But I must admit to weak moments. This one could seduce me (29" Piotti BSEE, 5#13 oz.) pretty easy. This isn't all about logic, is it? http://www.williamlarkinmoore.com/images/_MG_2103.JPG
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You will find the the 28 Ga. is "greater than the sum of it's parts". It will hold it's own with the 20 Ga. in most cases of upland hunting. It is great for hunting or targets.
Don't mind Larry, he hand wrings about the slightest downside of whatever topic that is ask about. Most 28 gauge users will not agree with his opinions about it.
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GF1, I don't know about that wood... Looks like the whites of an old dog's eyes. Give me some nice straight grain I can focus on  (HEY, I'm just foolin')
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