Doverham: On a hunting gun I guess because of my technique of shooting I like the butt end slick too and prefer either a checkered butt or a hard butt plate over a recoil pads. What I do and it does not look real great is put duct tape over a sticky pad. It is utilitarian and easily removable and works great. I don't even like leather covered pads unless they are really slick. A target gun which is premounted, however, then I want a sticky pad such as kick-eez. Take care

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