Sorry, I guess I should be more specific. I'm looking for something American made, 12 gauge, double triggers, probably 28" barrels or longer that's been used and maybe isn't all that pretty but is still plenty serviceable. I've looked at 311's but I've never quite warmed up to them. I was hoping to get above the hardware store grade but doubles seem to be scarce around here. All the local gunshops have are 311's or the occasional grossly overpriced Savage Fox model B. I guess there's always the internet but I'm a little leery about buying guns without being able to check them out first. I've made a vow for no more "new" guns. smile