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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
...screwing a gun up beyond repair...


I've had that done a few times by the some of the most famous celebrities in the double gun world. It always cost me more than a few bucks though. Now I tend to butcher and rape my own...that way I don't have to listen to empty apologies or offers to fix it for a "few more bucks" the second time around.

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I respect my friend Joe Wood's opinion, but adhesives are so easy, I see no reason not to give them a try. If they fall out, you can still shoot the gun until you try something else. On the other hand, they may last forever. I have used a little slug of electrician's tape on the forend lug that lasts for about as long as I am careful taking the gun apart. I will probably find some of that Black Max stuff if one of my guns ever gets loose. Unfortunately, I doubt if that is ever going to happen.

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I have never heard any English gunsmith/gunmaker use the term "off face". What happened to that small English word "the" like :- off the shelf, off the bench, off the table and off the face.


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I don't have an answer to your question, John. However, since we don't speak the same language as our friends in the UK, why would our sentence structure be the same?

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I always understood that you were an English speaking nation but I do remember seeing on sale in an airport an American into English dictionary. At the time I thought it was a joke. It has puzzled me for some time where this "off face" term came from. When "the" is not missing from anyting else that I know of.


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John, the dictionary you saw would be of good use to those of us travelling either way, UK to USA or the opposite. No, it was not a joke. Thanks for the reply.

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May be the English teacher could give us a ruling on this ?

My other question or comment on this thread is simply ,why not have the gun rejointed properly instead of all this talk of "doctoring" ,make do and mend? I see so many nice guns that have been buggered up by well meaning amatures and incompetent "professionals". It will only cost more in in the long run.

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What happened to that small English word "the" like :- off the shelf, off the bench, off the table and off the face.


It went out with the extra "i" in aluminium.

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why not have the gun rejointed properly instead of all this talk of "doctoring" ,make do and mend?


It's that pioneer spirit that developed in the colonies.


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Originally Posted By: John Foster
I have never heard any English gunsmith/gunmaker use the term "off face". What happened to that small English word "the" like :- off the shelf, off the bench, off the table and off the face.


John I think your comment is off base.

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Originally Posted By: John Foster
I always understood that you were an English speaking nation but I do remember seeing on sale in an airport an American into English dictionary. At the time I thought it was a joke. It has puzzled me for some time where this "off face" term came from. When "the" is not missing from anyting else that I know of.


How about "off base", referring to someone that is missing the point? How about "off key", referring to a singer or musician that is off musical key? How about off line, referring to someone or something that is not on track. I could go on and on with these but, as you see, there are many phrases in English that omit the "the", because it is understood by those on this side of the pond. That would be English, John, not King's English. We did away with kings, and "their English", over here some 235 years ago.

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