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This is a circa 1911-13 sporter with two small screws in the left side.

From looking at the wood & metal I can't see that anything was ever mounted there. I can't think of a mount that only used the two small screws, any ideas?

The nice colors of the receiver will keep me from even thinking about pluging the screw holes.

The two extra holes aside, not a bad old rifle.

Looks like a rifle you could have carried all day in the wilderness when a good rifle was a necessity and men had to depend on their own skill and ingenuity to keep them alive and well.

Hello Michael

What a nice rifle. From my very limited experience I wouldn't plug the holes either, the reference value in some collections is the variation, and if something does turn up that matches those holes it will be "problem solved". Heck even the pictures of them are bound to be useful to someone at some time.


Cheers - Foster

Michael: I don't know if you recall but I have a similar rifle that has 2 holes drilled in the same place and could never figure out what scope mount went on there. Mine had a long slide 48 Lyman as well so I just let her be!!! Let me know if you figure it out! Jerry

What do I think? 2 things:

One, I wish oh how I wish it wuz mine!

And two, if it WUZ mine then I'd be bench-fabbing some sort of side mount base for an offset scope, just enough offset to clear the unaltered bolt handle and with a recoil shoulder against the rear of the front ring. Absolutely NO alterations to the rifle and IMO a reasonable approach for aging eyes.

Could even make it a cross-eyed mount for a shooter with damaged right-eye vision, similar the the Mauser that John Amber commissioned when he lost his right-eye vision.

The fact that there are at least 2 rifles done this way is, IMO, significant. It leads me to speculate that perhaps the holes were to accommodate some sort of factory-made item(s) with standard dimensions, or at least similar designs.

So, Michael, what do YOU think?(grin)
Regards, Joe

(Added later) Or maybe a mount originally intended for a Krag or Mannlicher-Schoenauer? But how come we haven't seen it before? Or have we, at least some of us......? Regards, Joe

AL1, Do I have a picture of that rife or do we know the maker?

JDS, If need be I can find a rifle with a scope some place around here. What puzzles me is that I can see no sign of anything ever mounted there.

I did see a Sedgley with two holes and both had a larger knurled headed screws marked No.1 & No.2 but can not seem to find the picture.

The buttplate looks like a modified Sharps Borchardt one.