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Originally Posted By: chopperlump
What has all this nonsense to do with double guns? Chops

Nonsense??

This discussion has everything to do with double guns and all other types of guns if you have any visions of your grandchildren being able to exercise the rights we have today. Make NO mistake here. The real goal of the socialist like the ones who invade this forum periodicaly is to outlaw ALL guns including your cherished doubles and they'll try to do it one step at a time. You can be complacent and go sit one the sidelines because your particular firearms interest is in no immediate danger or cut this crap off in the nub and make sure ALL firearms ownership rights are protected.
I've stated this before but I guess it bears repeating. I hope to see the day when NO discussion of firearms ownership rights is necessay because it will be a given accepted fact by all. Until that day come I will continue to do whatever I can to show the opposition for what they are which is conscious and dedicated agents of a vast socialist conspiracy to enslave the rest of us.
Oh and I forgot one point:
When these socialist shills finish demonstrating the have no valid points and after they finish trying to insult you they will generally resort to cursing you as demonstrated above. My statement "beneath contempt' was probably too mild.
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Homer, an avowed Liberal like yourself, wouldn't be caught dead on a gun forum... Liberals positively hate guns. See that little red 'X' up there in the right-hand corner of your window? Just klick on it, and disappear.... Grant.

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Is that a joke grant--If not --I want you to get down on both knees and KMA


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I am so glad I live in Canada and don't have to deal with all this racist bull$h!t.

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Ive been telling these nickwads all day that I dont care what they think and I dont want to try and change what they think. Dont expect me to go into long justifications of my views compared to theirs. I'm past that. I have no respect for them and wouldnt try and educate them. Im a democrat and a shooter. I come here only for the shotgun discussions


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Wow, racist and paranoid, and gun owners to boot! Hey I think there is a FEMA concentration camp being set up in the AZ desert to house and liquidate all of the righteous AZ gun owners who eat at McDonalds. My sources tell me if you eat at Burger KIng your OK, cause the King is royalty and we cant piss off our british allies and we don't want to upset Harry's big day. I also heard that Obama ordered up a special force-shield that was captured technology from a surviving Roswell alien (or Mexican) to protect the installation from attack from us citizens who know the truth. And that guy is running the BATF now! I can't get down there to fight cause my car got repo'd after I lost my job in the recession (that was the alien's (or Mexicans) fault too), can one of you guys give me a ride and carry on the good fight? Italiansxs, your down there can you give us a report? Someone let me know when they can pick me up.

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Yes the blame apparentely goes right to the top:


The accusations against ATF and DOJ officials include:

1. They intentionally allowed perhaps as many as 3,000 firearms to “walk” across the U.S. border into Mexico.

2. They instructed U.S. gun dealers to proceed with questionable and illegal sales of firearms to suspected gunrunners.

3. They intentionally withheld information about U.S.-sanctioned gun smuggling from the Mexican government.

4. One of the guns ATF allowed or helped to be smuggled into Mexico was involved in the death of CBP Agent Brian Terry.

For two years, we’ve been hearing from Holder and others in the Obama administration about a so-called ‘iron pipeline’ of American guns across the border, and federal officials have been working to strip you of your rights.

Wouldn’t it be ironic to learn that while the Obama administration was blaming our gun rights for the drug war violence in Mexico, its own gun sting operation was a major source of illicit firearms?

Obama nominated anti-gun zealot Andrew Traver to head up the ATF prior to Congressional recess last year, and reappointed him in the 112th Congress—but the Senate Judiciary Committee has yet to hold hearings. Rumors are that this Gunrunner issue is causing problems, because the ATF doesn’t want questions about this case to come up.

What does the ATF not want us to know?

This is a cover-up at the highest levels of our government.



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Yeh, vast conspiracy, highest levels, stinko pinkos in my septic tank at nite. Oh me oh mi-yi-yi! Of all the wolves you guys have seen at the door, you'd think one of em woulda et you by now. Been fun and all you fine gentlemen of the rot have just the best old day what's left of it.

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Thanks for the info, Jim. I care not the least about the political leanings of a criminal, I just want him to do his time, after he gets his day in court.

If these allegations prove to be true, criminals they are.

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Appreciated Ted:
However please note that not one of the socialist detractors in this thread has shown any concern that the charges are in fact true. Like typical leftists everywhere they don't let the truth stand in the way of their goal of enslaving the rest of us who desire to remain free.
I'll probably sign off here for now until the trolls crawl back under their respective bridges. grin
Jim


I was just sent this so I'm going to add it. Don't think the Obama administration is after your gun rights? Read ON!

The only actual reason the ATF would have to let American-sourced guns "walk" into Mexico is to provide facts in support of the Obama administration's ongoing effort to blame Mexican gun violence on American arms dealers, as justification for further infringing the constitutionally protected gun rights of American citizens. They have been putting out trumped up charges of U.S. blame for Mexican drug violence since they got into office, but their weak evidence hasn't stood up to scrutiny. So they decided to manufacture some hard evidence. It is the only logical explanation.

Where do Mexican drug-war weapons actually come from? This from James G. Conway Jr., "a former FBI special agent and program manager of FBI counterterrorism operations in Latin America":

On the surface, a cursory review of the high-powered military-grade seized weaponry -- grenades, RPGs, .50-caliber machine guns -- clearly indicates this weaponry is not purchased at gun shows in the United States and can't even be found commercially available to consumers in the United States. The vast majority of the weaponry used in this "drug war" comes into Mexico through the black market and the wide-open, porous southern border of Mexico and Guatemala. This black market emanates from a variety of global gunrunners with ties to Russian organized crime and terror groups with a firm foothold in Latin America such as the FARC, as well as to factions leftover from the civil wars in Central America during the 1980's. Chinese arms traffickers have managed to disperse weapons, particularly grenades, on the streets of Mexico. In addition, many of the Mexican military-issued, Belgian-made automatic M-16s currently in the hands of traffickers have been pilfered from military depots and the thousands who have deserted the Mexican army in recent years.

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