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What amazes me is how much the angry old gas bags-and young gas bags- in this country now think that that their political opinions should be spouted where In prior years interjecting politics would be considered bad manners. Its as though they think everyone must agree with them. I guess this comes from living in the echo chamber that is Fox, Rush and right wing talk radio. You know you may as well not argue with them as soon as you see the term "main stream media" used. I thank those here that stand up and tell them we dont want to hear it.

"Homer:"
Above is a typical ploy of a left wing liberal who hasn't ONE fact to add in support of this failed administration. Let's insult those who point out these failings and blame everything else on "talk radio".

In an attempt to get this back onto a discussion of the current administrations posture on "gun control" I post this incredulous question asked of Obama by a Mexican reporter.



A Mexican reporter asked Obama why he doesn�t just veto the Second Amendment. What�s surprising is the answer:

Obamas Response:
�Well, the Second Amendment in this country is part of our Constitution, and the president of the United States is bound by our Constitution. So I believe in the Second Amendment. It does provide for Americans the right to bear arms for their protection, for their safety, for hunting, for a wide range of uses. That does not mean that we cannot constrain gun-runners from shipping guns into Mexico. And so we believe that we can shape an enforcement strategy that slows the flow of guns into Mexico, while at the same time preserving our Constitution.�

My Opinion:
If Obama truly believed what he stated above he would immediately suspend those in charge of the BATF and order an independent investigation into their activities i.e. running guns into Mexico.

Jim

ATF has been on a slippery slope since 1993. I can see them possibly being disbanded, or at least merged into the FBI.

I just want to address something, and then I will drop the subject.

Disagreeing with Obama does not make me a racist.

Talk radio or the right-wing side of it is not the problem. The left is just as guilty of slanting the truth and "selective" reporting. The problem with the left wing media is everything is based on "how does this story affect Obama?" and it is reported as such.

They want fair and balanced and a "fairness doctrine" as long as it does not apply to them.

Case in point. When the Tea Party movement was out doing rallies, all you heard was that they were "extreme" and "crazy." The left showed you signs comparing Obama to Hitler and painted the Tea Party as seditious. Yet, when the protesters in Wisconsin held signs comparing their duly elected Governor to Hitler, Hosni Mubarak and other dictators, they were "heros" and "patriots." When Congresswoman Giffords was wounded in Tucson, the left tried to blame Sarah Palin and the Tea Party's "rhetoric." Yet, it was okay for protestors in Wisconsin to hold signs clearly stating "Walker, Wanted Dead or Alive" with "Alive" crossed out. These were just regular Americans concerned about their future, right?

Spare me the Fox News and talk radio BS. It has nothing to do with being racist. It is all about the left's agenda and their vision of our country.

Italiansxs--thanks for proving my point. I am entitled to be as liberal as I want. I dont bring it in here. So get out of my face--i dont respect your opinion one bit.

I dont start the political arguments. I just respond to what I think is a bad attitude and harmful to our country. I believe you should go on thinking as you wish and I'll do the same. I'd just as soon argue with my dog as keep this up though.

To get back on the track of objectivity, the Couric interview does not trace the origin of "Fast&Furious" to even Cabinet level let alone to Mr. Obama. The "smoke" of placing the President's views of the 2nd upside the scandal of a BATF entrapment project gone wrong doesn't mean there's a "fire". But if there is something to this besides Dave's smoke and mirrors, finding out "who knew how much when" and whether Cabinet officers, Obama, Biden et al had their fingerprints on it would be in order. I faintly recall Mr. President Boraxo Cowboy and Veep Poppy Bush facing the same sort of question about means and ends a couple decades back. I forget how that turned out but seem to remember that shite don't stick to Teflon like it sticks to goat hair.

jack

To refresh your memory--Ollie was convicted of two felonies.

Over at CSP Dick Culver created a seperate forum for politics. Those that wanted gun talk were thereafter spared the extra noise as he required that it go to the new discussion.

And Mr. President Rip van Reagan? He was convicted of what?

Homer, there's also a playpen here for the advocative, provocative, and adversarial. The standard excuse for not using it is that matters affecting the right of gun ownership are never out of place on the main board--a righteous argument that expedites and masks the daily dose of partisan political venom.

jack

"Homer:"
Above is a typical ploy of a left wing liberal who hasn't ONE fact to add in support of this failed administration. Let's insult those who point out these failings and blame everything else on "talk radio".

You've actually proven my point: Like all socialists "entitlement" generally at the expense of others is your main goal.
Your bankrupt mentality can do nothing but insult those who can and do point out the failings of this administration. If your actions wern't so pitiful I'd have even more contempt for those ou your ilk. I could really lay into someone like you but it frankly isn't worth and that would create an excuse to stifle the facts and for not pointing out this administrations true goals inre. to gun ownership which is what your socialists would really like to see happen.