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I was poking around and saw a few NID 410's for sale, but not Flues or Crass 410's. I thought I read that there were 700 and change NID 410's made.
Anyone know how many Flues and Crass guns were produced?
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I have not heard of nor seen a Crass in .410
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I believe they were all NID models.
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There were no Ithaca 410's prior to 1926--the year the NID was introduced. About 800 were made--roughly twice the number of 28ga. guns.
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All the Ithaca .410-bores were NIDs. Up through the last Flues catalogue, the smallest bore Ithaca catalogued was 28-gauge. With the 1926 NID catalogue they began catalogueing the .410-bore and dropped the 28-gauge. However, they did build NID 28-gauges from the beginning. The 28-gauge returned to the NID catalogues with the 1932 issue, concommitant with Western Cartridge Co. introducing their Super-X 28-gauge shell.  .410-bores -- Field Grade --790 Grade 1 -------64 Grade 2 -------40 Grade 3 --------7 Grade 4 -------14 Grade 5 --------6 Grade 7 --------2 Sousa Special --1
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There were Ithaca made Lefever Nitro Specials in .410. I have two.
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I believe there were also A grade Ithaca-Lefever .410's.
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And then there were these:   Only 18 made with skeet/skeet chokes. A few more, like 30/40 with other chokes. I have the data but not at hand at the moment. And of course there were these (Western Arms) 
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Walt, I have a Western Arms/Ithaca "Long Range" (!!!) .410 double, altho not in the kind of condition the one pictured is in. But mine has a oonsiderably longer forend than the one shown. Is that one standard or is mine?
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Mike, All the ones I have seen are like the photo. BUT I have not seen them all! In fact I have not seen all that many, maybe 10 or so. Not a lot of them around.
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