Going to have to start shooting my 12s more I guess. Just sort have drifted away from them, my excuse was that they were too heavy. Reading this thread made me think I have at least 3 that are under 7 lbs. a Beretta BL-3, Ithaca 37R and my faorite a fifties V. Bernadelli SxS. Now if the snow melts some more so I can get to the range time to get back to the 12. For me they weren't dead just hibernating.