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Neat, I have and shoot a Grade 2 Syracuse L. C. Smith hammerless and an Ithaca NID (below 500,000), both in 10 gauge.

I use Alcan 10 gauge all brass hulls, MEC 10 gauge wad cut to length, Single F Black powder and #3 steel shot for the Smith.

For the NID, I use smokeless and Remington Plastic hulls.

What 10 and 16 are you using?

Mike

Note that I did not "Recommend" modifying any brass, merely quoted Lyman's recommendation. There were a lot of CBC all brass shells imported from Brazil wearing Berdan pockets of the same dia as the old Fioochi brass Alcan imported years ago, but the primers are not directly interchangable due to a different height. I recall when Mag-Tech's all brass hulls were these Berdan primed CBC hulls as well.
I would nor recommend in any way modifying one of the Mag-Tech hulls which took the pistol primers. I can't really remember for certain, but did Alcam supply all brass hulls using the Rem 57 primer in gauges smaller than the 12ga. I seem to recall that all their smaller gauge ones used the Berdan primer.

Yes, 410, 20, 16, 12, and 10 , do not know about 28 gauge.
Alcan brass hulls were made using *57 primers
Mike

I mostly shoot a 1865 Westley Richards 10 bar in wood field 10 with 27" brls, it must have went back to Westley since it has newer style hammers that are rebounding but still has the 1/2 cock hammers feature. Nice gun out of a duck boat. Also have a Charles Daly 10 hammer with reverse chokes. In 16ga H Burgsmuller Dam hammeer underlever, Ferlach guild hammer, and a Lefever hammerless Dam gun. Hopefully by next season I will have 10 Scott Dam with some tighter chokes. Had to find some brls since the ones on it had a crack where someone had filed a dent.
I have been shooting Long Shot out of the 10s with #5 bismuth shot. There is a guy not far from me that makes busmuth shot. I do shoot some steel thru a hammer Husky underlever and a Beretta 10 for snow geese pass shooting.

Early on in this thread, some one said that brass becomes brittle with age, and that is why the military doesn't use old ammo. After spending 20 years in Army Ordnance in the ammo field, this is news to me. I never heard of ammunition being suspended from use due to age. Some .30-40 Krag and early .30-06 ammo did develop neck splits after aging, but that was due to improper annealing during manufacture. The problem was discovered and corrected by properly annealing the case necks after the last sizing operation, and I never saw a split neck in military ammunition loaded after WWI. Until the advent of one piece plastic hulls, the military used brass shells for their buckshot loads for guard duty, and I never heard of any problems with those shells until they were used up, and I saw some issued as late as 1969.
Any brass shell that was previously fired with a mercuric primer is subject to embrittlement due to mercury contamination and should not be reloaded.