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The way it worked then was, you buy your air time and get your sponsors together. If you can't put enough sponsors togther to make a profit, you go out of business. Dick is right on how it works. I am a regular hunting partner/friend of Harley Jackson, host of American Gun Dog. I have participated in two episodes in the past. This show has been sponsored by Benelli, Toyota, Delorme GPS, etc. They started on ESPN whom regulated the number of bird kills allowed per show, and switched networks to the Outdoor Channel. Getting ongoing funds from the sponsor companies is very tough. AGD has been filming shows again this year, although there were none done last. Fischer Productions has done a number of different outdoor shows, Offshore Adventures fishing, free diving, Great White shark on Nat. Geo channnel, etc.. American Gun Dog has the toughest time getting sponsors on board of the group that they produce. Let's face it, there are far fewer of us than bass guys, deer hunters, and cage fight fans. Cabelas and GunBroker both support cage fighters. The advertising dollars go to the group with the audience.
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But wait, it's made room for those great archery shows that have guys shooting giant carp trapped in mud holes. It doesn't get much more sporting than that!
It's disgraceful that we're inundated with all this crap, I even have to resort to watching a show dedicated to air rifles to get away from the mind numbing repetition of deer hunting from a tree stand.
You can't tell me that people wouldn't want to watch a majestic point versus that nonsense. The air gun girl is almost cute enough to compensate for the shortcomings of that show. Come to think of it, watching her arrow some carp would be 100% better than Fly Rod Chronicals. I too enjoyed the upland game shows cited in previous posts but, there was often way too much film of old geezers stumbling about laughing at each other and talking about the great food at the lodge. This has its limits. The geezers praised the accommodations so frequently one could make a drinking game out of it. Each time the Shotgun Journal host says "first class lodging" you drink. Watching air gun girl describe how to operate a saftey mechanism or make a bore snake out of weed whacker line might be more interesting to most people. Certainly to me. I do sort of like the show with the young hippie type tooling about in the old Winnebago. A redneck/hippie hybrid is always funny and it is amusing to see a host who is such an awful shot.
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I don't know.......when my buds and I go on a bird hunting trip, we talk a lot about good food! Also about how good that bed's gonna feel in the evening. Maybe they were going for the reality show audience.
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The air gun girl is almost cute enough to compensate for the shortcomings of that show. Come to think of it, watching her arrow some carp would be 100% better than Fly Rod Chronicals.
I too enjoyed the upland game shows cited in previous posts but, there was often way too much film of old geezers stumbling about laughing at each other and talking about the great food at the lodge. Hey! All those old geezers are younger than I am! Perhaps if they put Airgungirl in a show with the old geezers they could appeal to a mixed age audience. Oldgeezer: "There is Dutch on point!" Camera pans to Airgungirl Airgungirl: "Oh! He is so handsome! Look at all those muscles! Reminds me of my boyfriend Chip." Oldgeezer: Does Chip point too? Airgungirl: No, doggystyle silly! Oldgeezer: Our audience may not know it but we stayed at the wonderful Cock Pheasant Bed and Breakfast Ranch and Airgungirl's boyfriend Chip was there too. They served pheasant last night and boy was it great! Airgungirl: That cock was some of the best I ever had! Oldgeezer: Would you like to move the cock Airgungirl? Airgungirl: No thanks, plenty last night. Oldgeezer: I mean would you like to make the pheasant fly? Airgungirl: Oh, tee hee hee, sure! And after that let's go back to the wonderful accomodations at Cock Pheasant Bed and Breakfast Ranch! Chip told me he was going to give me a big cock when we get back to the wonderful Cock Pheasant Bed and Breakfast Ranch and I can't wait! Ryan do you think something like that would pull in viewers from your age demographic?  Best, Mike
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Thats some funny #####! All that innuendo from a heating and cooling guy. I'll bet you let the guys in the shop have Snap On girlie pics. Made me blush.
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Mike! You are too much! I also lament the loss of upland shows, I like to watch good bird dogs at work...Chuck H put it pretty well, we have to do it ourselves and store up memories. Some of these so called hunting shows are truely offensive. Watching some overfed bumpkin kill a deer out a box blind over a feeder with a bunch of other deer standing around is sure to make antihunting converts....cuz thats not hunting...AND you just know that guys hunting these overpriced overrated lodges aint paying for it...Wanna see my Snap on girlie pics?
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One of the really interesting recent developments in outdoor programming is "The Wild Within." If you haven't seen it, that may be because its not on any hunting channel, its on the Travel Channel. It's a true field to table show, with every step from the travel, to the hunt, to field dressing and to the table. It's well produced and can be rather intense at times, and it doesn't shy away from potentially controversial things such as showing a Moose being field dressed to trapping for beavers for fur. Being on the Travel Channel, it reaches a large non hunting audience, and its drawn the attention of "mainstream" entertainment news outlets in metropolitan areas. Will be interesting to see how it does. Show Link: http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Shows/The_Wild_WithinABC News Interview: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/video/wild--12539998Fox News Interview: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4483723/the-wild-within
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Boy oh boy, ice fishing on the Sportman's Channel today! Doesn't get better than this ...
In their defense, they did have a couple water fowling shows on before that.
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By the way, as a result of the Comcast-NBC merger approval, Versus is now under NBC sports. Will be interesting to see what that means for its future. The new team at NBC, Versus, Golf Channel, CSN Regionals
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It did not take long for Comcast and NBC Sports to make some big changes putting the right people in the right spots.
There are a great many networks and the idea of getting them all under the same banner as well as working from the same play book.
So here are the changes and they have put together a very powerful team of executives.
The executive leadership team of the newly formed NBC Sports Group – which consists of NBC Sports, Golf Channel, VERSUS, 11 Comcast SportNets (regional sports networks that includes CSN Mid Atlantic) and their digital assets – was announced today by Dick Ebersol, Chairman, NBC Sports Group.
“People are the most important part of any organization and the experience, talent and leadership ability of this group is second to none,” said Ebersol. “As we formed the new NBC Sports Group by combining the storied history and broad reach of NBC Sports with Comcast’s 24/7 ability to super-serve the fan, it was imperative to create a leadership team that possessed a wide array of experience and expertise across the business. I could not be happier with this group of collaborative leaders and I feel that our division is well positioned going forward.”
In November it was announced that Ebersol would serve as Chairman of the NBC Sports Group pending completion of the Comcast-NBCUniversal transaction, which occurred last week. The new leadership structure takes effect immediately.
Ken Schanzer, a 30-year veteran of NBC Sports, who has been Ebersol’s second-in-command for most of the past two decades, continues in his role as President, NBC Sports and becomes the lead negotiator for all NBC Sports Group partnership agreements.Gary Zenkel remains President, NBC Olympics and Executive Vice President, Strategic Partnerships, NBC Sports, and will now lead the NBC Sports Group Olympic business across all platforms and continues to have business oversight of all digital business. Today’s announcement places Mark Lazarus, Jon Litner, Mike McCarley, Jon Miller and Sam Flood in new roles in the newly formed leadership team.
Mark Lazarus, a 19-year cable industry veteran and former Turner Entertainment Group president, has been named President, NBC Sports Cable Group. He will oversee Golf Channel, VERSUS and the 11 Comcast SportNets, and report directly to Ebersol. Lazarus has worked with every major sports league, Hollywood studio and major advertiser and, as head of Turner Sports, led the network’s acquisition of the rights to the NBA, NASCAR, MLB playoffs, Wimbledon and the British Open, as well as the digital rights to NASCAR.com, PGATOUR.com, and PGA.com. Most recently, Lazarus was the President of Career Sports & Entertainment (CSE) based in Atlanta. Lazarus will relocate from his home in Atlanta to NBCUniversal’s New York corporate headquarters at 30 Rockefeller Plaza.
Jon Litner, Comcast Sports Group President, has been promoted to President, VERSUS and SportsNet. Litner, a sports television executive for most of the past two decades with both network and cable experience, joined Comcast in 2005 when he launched SportsNet New York (SNY). Prior to launching SNY, he was the Executive Vice President/COO of the National Hockey League from 1999 to 2005, where he managed U.S. and Canadian broadcasting, digital media, public relations, special events, new business development, game scheduling and in-house television production. He served as Senior Vice President, Programming for ABC Sports prior to the NHL. He reports to Lazarus and will continue to be based at Comcast corporate headquarters in Philadelphia.
Mike McCarley, Senior Vice President, Strategic Marketing, Promotion and Communications, NBC Sports, has been promoted to President, Golf Channel. McCarley has worked alongside Ebersol for more than a decade and has been his close confidant and advisor on many matters pertaining to NBC Sports over the past several years. He is credited with developing NBC Sports’ ‘big-event strategy’ that has resulted in record television audiences for NBC Sports properties including the Olympics, NFL, Kentucky Derby and NHL. He reports to Lazarus and will relocate from 30 Rockefeller Plaza to the Golf Channel studios in Orlando, Fla.
Jon Miller, Executive Vice President, NBC Sports, has been promoted to President, Programming, NBC Sports and VERSUS. Miller, an NBC Sports veteran for 26 years, is known as a savvy and creative programmer. He is credited with creating the NHL Winter Classic and leads NBC Sports Ventures, a unit that generates income from non-traditional revenue streams by acquiring and developing new and existing sports properties. He continues to report to Schanzer for NBC Sports and now reports to Lazarus for VERSUS. Miller remains at 30 Rockefeller Plaza.
Jamie Davis, former President, VERSUS, will continue to work with Lazarus on strategy and planning for the NBC Sports Group as he assesses potential roles within the Comcast family.
Sam Flood, named only the seventh Executive Producer in NBC Sports history last June, has been promoted to Executive Producer, NBC Sports and VERSUS. Flood began his career at NBC as an Olympic researcher in 1986. In addition to his Executive Producer duties, Flood currently produces NBC Sports’ critically acclaimed NHL coverage and “Football Night in America.” He continues to report to Ebersol and remains at 30 Rockefeller Plaza
Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/watc...##ixzz1Da9t3dzg
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Wanna see my Snap on girlie pics? Unless theyre different in Kansas I'm sure I'm pretty up to date .
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