Drew, this is still confusing to me. Are you saying that SERVICE pressure is 650 BAR for guns PROOFED at 850 BAR? Does that mean that any shells marked CIP will be no higher then 650 BAR which is 9,432 psi or can they be as high as the 10,730 psi Larry quoted?
Then to further complicate things on the back of those Eley shells we bought it says: "For use in guns with 2 1/2"/65mm or longer chambers marked for a service pressure of at least 3 tons per sq.in. or a European proof pressure of 850kg per sq.cm.and/or a shot load of 1 oz.."
Larry