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Johann Georg Heinrich Egestorff(1802-1868) was also dubbed with the Kommerzienrat title as he owned a primer making business at Linden Mountain, at a salt works?, in the Hannover, which he founded in 1861. Johann Friedrich August Buresch(1821-1885) married Johann Georg Heinrich Egestorff's daughter Georgine Wilhelmine Egestorff(1836-1804). The firm manufactured primers, cartridges and evidently made or sourced clay pigeons as they sold them to the Brits. It had an address on Hamel�ner Chaussee which is now either Hanomagstra�e or Bornumerstra�e.
Anyway with the Egestorff concern making primers and Karl Stiegele making bullets, I'm sure they were more than just pen pals.


Oktober 13th, 1876 Post Card
Source: Andrew Andrew Bornemann - www.postkarten-archiv.de.
http://www.postkarten-archiv.de/lindener-industrie-von-1838-1859.html
Interesting Postkarten collection


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Raimey
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From the 1866, June/July, publication of M�nchen Messenger Town & Country paper.



Difficult to read, but it seems there was some controversy between Karl Stiegele, I assume Junior, and a military fella named Steinbrecher over a revolver. Seems Karl Stiegele was fined some 150 monetary units in the end?

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Raimey
rse

Steinbrecher was the military servant of an officer who had purchased a revolver from Stiegele. He was sent by his master to Stiegele with the loaded revolver to have a cartridge removed from the barrel(chamber?). Stiegele, thinking the revolver was being returned as defective, grabbed it from the soldier, without waiting for an explanation, and as it was pointing in the soldiers direction, the revolver went off, wounding the soldier in the chest, and causing him permanent damage and the loss of 170 days of work. Since the incident was not intentional, Stiegele was charged with negligent bodily harm to another and fined 150 (florins?). The prosecutor immediately appealed this decision on the grounds that his request for a term of imprisonment was incorrectly denied and that, because of the defendants wealth, the fine was inconsequential.

Xausa, thanks for all the effort in wadding thru the Old German the script font and I would say in addition to Stiegele's wealth, his status was also considered.

Andreas-Andrew Bornemann of Hannover gives that the postkarte contains info about a powder & primer order, so we know where Stiegele was sourcing some cartridge components.

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Raimey
rse

Raimey, I thought I remembered you stating that the script L was for Louis Kelber....it is on a 1935 Funk drilling I own, and positioned near the forearm hanger. Steve

Louis Kelber is typically a jagged encircled L and here's Axel's answer to the script L:

"This mark was used by the Gebr�der Kelber barrelmaking company, founded by Louis Kelber in 1894, owned then by Louis, Robert and Wilhelm Kelber. They used either this L stamp or a LK. In 1927 the "Gebr. Kelber" company was dissolved, but as noted above both Louis and Wilhelm Kelber started again on their own, Louis using the "LK" stamp and Wilhelm the well-known "WK". Who, one or both?, for which orders?, continued to use the "GB pound" stamp? Wilhelm at least is known as a rifling specialist, while Louis also made barrel ribs as a side business."

Either one of the Boys Kelber held with the mark of they sure had a hoard of tubes seeing some wear the mark from the late 1930s.

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Raimey
rse

Many thanks for furhmann for wadding thru an 1864 advert by Karl Stiegele, Junior noting that he now had the reins of the company but his father will offer support, when and if needed. His effort was to instill confidence in his clients that they could expect to expect the same service and products. Said service would include the repair of old sporting weapons in particular the conversion of muzzle-loaders to his designed breech-loader. He notes that their warehouse was lush with components such as barrels, locks & stocks as well as offering cartridges, shells & wads for the then new Lefaucheux breech-loader to the desire of the client. Then he gets to the crux of the matter which was his bullet design and fabrikation. He had designed a bullet press for making swaged bullets, specifically his very accurate pointed bullets, which had an identification number between 1 & 100, making the re-order of bullets easy. For the hunt clubs, he would offer samples and I think we should more closely examine these clubs as like our golf courses today, deals were proposed and secured here. It states that the bullets were a value and if one had a large enough order, he would build you a custom mold.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse