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I shoot at Quail Creek Plantation here in Florida. Four hundred pheasants and three hundred pigeons are tossed from a tower hidden in a copse [?]. 24 guns are the maximum and there are usually less when a gun or guns buy the whole post.

You will be caught with an empty gun from time to time. Some birds come out so strong and gain altitude so fast they might as well be satellites. Pigeons team up and fly in and out and frequently come from behind you. Guns rotate so that the benefit or not of sun and wind is shared.

I use one ounce of RST 5s which I find effective on those high birds. Behind the guns are the dogs. A safari lunch follows.
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A certain amount of experience on wild pheasants (and I've also done a couple "continental" shoots, plus have shot the real driven birds in Scotland) leads me to believe that there's not much difference, in terms of vulnerability to shot, on a crossing bird versus an incomer. Vitals are still significantly more exposed than they are on the going-away birds you'll often see when walking them up with dogs. You don't have to drive shot through the backbone and the gizzard, and the head is still fully exposed on a crosser. Shooting wild pheasants over my dogs, I'll take a crack at a crossing bird farther out than I will one that's showing me nothing but tail end. Crossers are harder to hit, but significantly easier to kill.

For a very long time, until a mania for really "tall" birds came into fashion, the Brits seldom shot anything more than 1 1/16 oz, typically Brit 6's (which would be about 6 2/3, American shot size). I've used those loads to great effect, over dogs, on wild roosters.

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