Ted, I used to get that same feeling about Japanese guns because I am old enough to remember all the stamped tin trash they exported after the war (WW-2) but I'd put my Miroku Mod.500 against any of the nice field grade American vintage guns. I had that same feeling about Turkish guns as the first Huglu guns I saw ten-15 years ago were TERRIBLE, slanted ribs, horrible fitting, etc. However since DeHann and CZ brought them into their lines, I have seen no more junk Huglus. JM2C. Chops