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GGCA's Axel E. kindly provided me these diagrams from Adolf Zimmer's text from 1877.







There are a couple of Teschner threads with info: http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=198557&page=1

Purely as a guess I'd say your longarm was made in the 1880s. Triggerguard bows were a bit more sculpted as a holdover from the percussion era and I for one think the Neo-Gothic period.


Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

I don't normally make these kind of comments but eventually even I get fed up....not that I expect anything will change.

HomelessjOe, just curious... does it make you feel more important, smarter or somehow more important of a person to crap on so many people who post on this site looking to learn and expand their knowledge?

I've run into people like you in other areas of interest. You are like those who have to use their superior knowledge or skill to make others feel bad or inferior.

You may find it hard to believe but there was a day when you knew nothing about firearms and others around you could have taken the path you've chosen so far. Maybe in your case they did, and maybe they didn't, only you know. If they were a**holes, you probably didn't like it; if they were helpful, you probably valued it.

So I'll throw this concept out. You don't have to be a dick! You have free will and can make choices. It's up to you. Why not encourage others who share similar interests to your own?

I expect I'll get some smart-ass response from you which I will be unlikely to respond to. Perhaps a better approach might be to resist the urge to type and, instead, think about what you're doing. I suspect most on this board might appreciate that.

There is a better way. You're probably smart enough to understand that.

One can choose to indulge ones worst instincts or choose to be a better person. Good luck.

James Roblin

Spend the time to read the thread...the guy said he had no intention of shooting the gun. It's evident he hopes it's of greater value than he paid.

I did spend the time to read both threads and I just told him the truth.

I suggested you spend a little time thinking about what I wrote before you typed.

I'm not referring to whether or not you told him the truth. My experience reading your posts is that you are usually on the money with regards to the facts.

I'm referring to your attitude and approach. It's your use of your knowledge that is so disappointing.

What he said is that he is not sure he wants to shoot it. That's quite different than "no intention".

And don't we all hope we buy guns for less than their value on the open market. If you are really opposed to that concept, I've got a couple of A grade Foxes you might like for $11,000. each. I'll throw the shipping in!

I did read the thread carefully, as did others who responded to the comment he made that he didn't really care if he "overpaid", that he's happy with the gun and what he paid.

You might notice that as of this post, I have about 50 posts on this board. That's because I spend a lot more time reading threads carefully than I do trying to make myself feel good by seeing how quickly I can post some smart-ass remark.

Most of his post is about trying to learn a few things about his new gun. You didn't really seem to spend the time to read his thread, you do what you always do... make a snap judgment and find a way to put the person down. It's tiresome.

You regularly write "read the thread" to those who take issue with your comments. Perhaps you should begin to take your own advice.

Thanks for the reply's so far, I'd first like to address that I am not the least bit insulted of upset if this shotgun is only worth $40.00; surprised would be more likely I had figured it must be worth at minimum $150.00. At least I don't have to adjust my firearm insurance . My intention is to restore and display this so if I have over spent on it that is quite fine. Sure it would have been great to unearth a long lost treasure but I had my doubts that it was when I bought it and paid $100.00 less than I would have so I remain quite comfortable with my expenditure.

The engineering pics should be quite helpful as I restore this piece I appreciate then very much. I had already searched this site and others for Teschner, Collath and Tesco, there is a very limited amount of info posted on the web about this company as far as I can tell.

In regards to the 1880ish guess: would it be safe to assume that by that era Collath was a partner and as such his name likely would have appeared on firearms of that period as well? Or am I misunderstanding how they utilized their names?

Any other guesses as to approximate age and value are welcome, also any speculation on the significance (or insignificance) of only Teschner's name appearing on the barrel. As well as any info regarding this company, including reputation etc.

Also I would not be apposed to firing this if there is a source for the correct cal 1 ammunition.

Thanks again for your ongoing help.

Just hang it on your wall "as is" and forget about shooting it.

Could you pleasure us with some pics of the underside of the tubes and on the forend? The marks might point toward sourcing of Suhl. I think the cartridge in the diagram is similar to C1 but I'll look for a listing. Kordell may have some insight.

Collath joined Teschner in 1859 and I would guess examples with Teschner only continued until the 1890s when Collath acquired the business. Collath sourced Mehlis for components to make this early Collath with the Teschner action:

http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20allemande/artisan%20c%20d/a%20collath%20w%20%20gb.htm

So with that I'd date your example from the 1880s and with just Georg Teschner's name atop points to the fact that Teschner was the wholesaler.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Never heard of Cal 1 ammo, so it must be a code or a local term. You should be able to tell what gauge it is, likely it's a 12 with short chambers.

BUT...I don't think it would be safet to fire. Too much of a gap when it's shut.

I can't remember if the following images are Kordell's or Lancasters but show an advert for C1 cartridges. I think it was in the 1860s that Teschner developed his nomenclature.





Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse