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Originally Posted By: 2-piper
I had one old J Stevens 325 double fire upon closing once. I never figured out the cause for sure & could never get it to do it again. I really treated it pretty rough (Unloaded) to see if I could get a repeat & it never dropped the hammers again. It was timed to the point you could load it without it cocking, so all I ever came up with was that the sear didn't fully engage, but just caught enough to hold till it closed. The gun wasn't slammed shut either, just closed normally. After that I always made certain I opened it far enough to be certain of full sear engagement & it never occured again.

I had the exact same thing happen. I just got lazy in opening the gun to reload and didn't open it fully. I had shot a single bird and was only reloading one barrel, so there was already less resistance to opening and the "feel" was different/lighter than after a double-volley. In any case, I opened it just enough for the sear to barely engage, and the closing of the gun was just enough to dislodge it from the bent. Fortunately, I had stuck to my standard practice of pointing the gun in a safe direction to close it. That was the day I really understood why I had done it that way for all these years, but it was also the day I learned to be more deliberate when opening a fired gun. The same gun has had cases of shells through it since without a repeat.

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What gun did it happen with ?

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I bought an H grade Lefever last year in need of lots of TLC. I noticed that one trigger sear notch has been welded and re-cut and the other complete sear is homemade. Who knows if the welded sear was properly re-hardened and who knows what material was used to make the replacement? I need to find replacement parts before I put this one back in service. The welded original could probably be salvaged. Both sides hold the hammers back, but for how long? I don't trust them.

I had a sear notch fracture on a brand new Colt Trooper MkIII .357 mag. The failure happened within the first 100 rounds. There was no accidental discharge. It wouldn't stay cocked and the hammer fell harmlessly with the transfer bar down. It doesn't have to be a cheap worn out gun to fail. Keep those muzzles pointed in a safe direction.


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I've had it happen more than once, most recently this year. That one was with a Hunter Fulton 16. Also happened with an LC Smith Field Grade 16 and with a Renato Gamba Principessa 28ga. All happened on the skeet range. Made some nice divits, about 10 feet in front of the pad.

If you have a gun with a manual safety and a very light trigger, you may jolt it enough on closing to cause it to go off. At least two of the above guns had automatic safes, and one clue may be when the auto safe does not completely reset on opening. Of course if the gun does not have intercepting sears, a severe jolt can cause it to fire even if it's on safe. But that usually requires something like dropping the gun.

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