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#197536 07/29/10 02:20 PM
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Hello All, I'm new here and was recommended from another site.I just purchased a small collection and a nice W C Scott & Sons SxS was part of it. It is a hammered, damascus barreled gun. It is by what I've read, a early gun as it has a barrel wedge on the forearm and the serial is 4129. It has a straight English stock with fine checkering and only very slight engraving. I know that a lot of the Scott guns were ornate but that they also made less ornate "common" type guns. The gun is complete and appears original other than a wedge of German silver at the tip of the forearm. Someone has at least reglued the wedge in if it is the original. There is a gob of glue on the inside of the forearm that can easily be removed so I'm not worried.The buttstock is crack free and the forearm has just a little tiny crack/splinter that can be glued right near the edge above the barrel wedge plate. The bores appear to be as close to good/excellent you can find for a damascus. I will of course have a double gun smith evaluate. The two firings pin springs need replacing as they are weak and the muzzle end is slightly out of round on one barrel from most likely being dropped or banged. Here are the specs:

12 gauge
2.5" chambers
28 1/4 long barrel

I have done some research and understand the WC Scott history but in all my looking I can't find a gun marked "The Western Gun". The whole top line on the rib is marked: W & C. Scott and Son (The Western Gun) Makers and Patentees, London. Note:The parenthesis I used are really brackets framing the Western Gun. I did notice that the locks on this gun, by the layout of the screws, look more like locks used on the later Webley and Scott guns at about the time they merged. Possibly because this gun is less ornate and most likely carried a lower price the locks used were also considered a lower quality, though nothing on this gun appears to be of low quality!
I'm am looking to get an idea on the value of this gun as I will most likely sell it to someone who will appreciate it. Possibly someone can point me in the right direction. I can email pictures.
Thanks Ted

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Chris:
W. & C. Scott & Son sold a LOT of guns in the USA, and had a number of agents/retailers there in the late 1800s. And, as you have noticed, even the prosaic Scott guns are of admirable quality. I've seen and handled a lot of Scotts, but never one marked "The Western Gun". They made models named the Australian and Canadian Guns, so why not a "Western"? By all means have a GOOD doublegun 'smith look it over. And please don't add anymore "glue" on the piece. It could just make things worse. Any Scott is a gun to respect.

Best, Kensal

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Ted,
If you click on the Other Useful Information link on the bottom of the page. You will find a list of serial numbers for several manufactures including WC Scott. The gun you have would have been made in 1873. Sounds like an interesting double.
Cheers,
Laurie


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Just got back from a trip out west to Sturgis SD. While there I decided to go to Yellowstone NP. I stopped in Cody WY to see the Buffalo Bill Museum and check out the guns. Low and behold in a glass case they had an almost identical Scott gun. It was no more ornate than mine and in about the same condition. It did have a higher serial number and it was not labeled the "Western Gun" but still looked very close. Nice to know what I have is worth putting under glass. LOL

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