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This is a thread that I hope will let folks discuss the various makers and their designs of side mounted scope mounts. We all know of the G&H but there were others. (and certainly G&H is not excluded, please don't get me wrong).
Michael P, on another thread, just displayed the pics of a Niedner mount on a Newton rifle. Lets show others.
Pics, plus's and minus's would be interesting. American, British and European.
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The first side mount that I know of in the USA was made by Noske. Noske Patent
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Here is a link to pictures of the Noske: Noske Pictures Very interesting, I think you can see that G&H used this patent to help with their patents. IMHO
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Since one reason for choosing a sidemount was/is to clear the receiver for iron sight use, my vote goes to the G&H. It is the least obtrusive when the scope is removed, and as installed by G&H and some others with base screwheads and pins machined off and polished over, the least messy looking.
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There were a slew of different Noske mounts, I see new ones all the time. 
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What do you think of the Niedner that M.P. showed on the Newton?
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I'm not sure who was next , Niedner or G&H.  
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AO does not appear to have patented his mount.
The Niedner appears to slide off its mount perpendicular to the action while the Noske and G&H are parallel to the action, is that correct? Do the 2 large slotted screw attach the mount to the base which is attached to the action? The screw at the front appears to maybe be the windage adjustment? Sorry for all the questions.
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None of the Niedner scope mounts were patented.
They slid off just as the Noske and G&H do, the screws tighten the mount like the lever(s) on the G&H.
All scope mounts of this vintage had windage in the mounts, the German scopes only had elevation.
The Mauser above is a Niedner in .257-Roberts with a Shelhamer stock. When I got it over thirty years ago I shot a five-shot group with the Hensoldt scope, then removed and replaced it, every shot, for the next group, both groups the same size and same place.
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