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#193763 06/27/10 08:41 AM
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I am looking for a new 16 gauge over/under built on a correct frame size with screw chokes if I can get them. I would not consider a Citori. Price would be around $2500. What say you folks? Thanks...


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I think SKB made only o/u in 20 gauge.

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Fine a Rizzini (F.A.I.R.). They make/or made scaled 16 gauge O/Us that are very nice.


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Ditto Don's suggestion. There are still some FAIRs left in Cabela's inventory. I believe B. Rizzini is now offering one model that's either on a smaller frame, or on which they went to an alloy receiver to reduce the weight. Otherwise, the possibilities are pretty limited. You might be able to find a decent used Merkel 200E and have Brileys installed for around your budget.

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I recently handled a "Fausti" 16 O/U that I should have grabbed. It felt good between the hands, 28" Bbls...light, not whippy....Price was about 1300.00 I'm thinking...No tubes, But why would anybody want em?

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They make dealing with steel shot a bit easier....


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Also google for Italian made LL Bean O/U guns. I'm pretty sure they had CC receivers scaled to gauge. Not sure if they were tubed but why would anybody be stupid enough not to offer them for only extra 3oz to 4oz in barrel weight. Buying modern O/U with out choke tubes is like getting bull w/o balls and penis.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Buying modern O/U with out choke tubes is like getting bull w/o balls and penis.


Indeed! smirk


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I have a F.A.I.R 400 in 16 Ga, it is a fairly nice gun, I wish it did'nt have screw chokes. Just one more thing to possibly go wrong. I use the IC and Modified Chokes tubes exclusively. I just take them out to clean.

Take a look at the Cortona Shotguns, very similar to the F.A.I.R s and Verona Shotguns that were imported a few years back.


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I can't speak with any authority about currently made FAIRs, as the two I have are from AD2002 and AD2003.
In August 2002 my dealer called me in to inspect his FAIR shipment for a desired 20GA. I examined five or six 20GA FAIRs and found several accceptable. On spec I handled two of this shipment in 28GA - never previously having fired a 28GA at that point. The first I handled I did not let go of....bought it on the spot. Imagine a 28GA Browning Superposed with 28" barrels, with darker Turkish figured wood, slight cast-off for a right handed shooter, cheap thin recoil pad, and a bit too bulbous pistol grip.
Was so taken with it, I immediately placed an order for my "semi-bespoke" 16GA FAIR. Asked for longer barrels, and longer stock, English hand and double triggers. Dealer personally places his orders in IWA Germany or EXE Italy annually and got his next shipment in July 2003. Got everything I asked for in that 16GA O/U. I've since had both tarted-up with BIG Bradley white front sights, Lyman white mid beads, and Pachmayr pads for more LOP (I'm 6'3").
Both see limited annual use, as they compete with my oldie SxS guns for daylight time. Both guns have their own frame size, came with combination lock built in plastic hard case, and five screw chokes. The two tightest 16GA chokes are VERY MUCH TOO tight.
GREAT guns for the money - not perfectly finished, but really fine affordable industrial product of modern Italy.
No idea of current USA retail priceing - will depend on retailer markup.
I believe the Cotona and Verona shotguns are contract made FAIRS. Also suspect that Isodoro provides frames to brother Batista and to Guerini Bros.
Hope this helps.

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