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I am following up last week's discussion of Armory Hornets with this advertisement for what is called a "development gun" at a fabulous price. There is no proof of this claim. Against it, it uses the service training rifle stock with finger groove forend instead of the NRA Sporter style stock which the sophisticated guys at the Armory used on their Hornets. Dozens, perhaps hundreds, of .22 Springfields were converted by gunsmiths around the country to Hornet and this may be one. At the beginning, the Armory guns were converted from rimfire. Then, unfinished bolts were taken off the production line and made originally as centerfire. A CF bolt in a Hornet is good evidence that it was made for the Armory experimenters.

About 10 years ago I wrote an article about the development of the Hornet as an addendum to an excellent article Mark Benenson wrote in 1998.
For those of you who might be interested, here are links to it:
First page
Second page

This thread and the other recent one raise the issue of just what are the differences between a an 1903 and a M1922. Barrel, bottom metal/clip & bolt assembly obviously, anything else? I think the stocks are similar to some special armory 03 models. MP's post on the carved stock thread implied that the receivers are the same externally, how about inside? Could you make a M1922 if you had a bolt and the magazine/floor plate assembly? Any thoughts and/or answers would be welcome.

Joel, embarassed to say your article is new to me, I want it !! You apparently have my Gun Digest article but I also wrote two for Precision Shooting, will swap xeroxes for a copy of yours.

1878, the stocks for the .22s were also available on the .30s, but had two stock crossbolts. The fingergroove stock was used on service .22 trainers, the bulker Sporter style on .22s sold to NRA members. Fingergroove stocks could be special ordered on .30s, but are rare and such rifles go for big money if they are original. I have never compared receivers but think they are the same. At least Numrich sold a conversion unit which would fit 03s or 03A3s. There was a .22 barrel liner and you got an M2 bolt which went right into the 03 receiver. These conversion units show up from time to time on the internet and at gun shows. I had one for a while, complete with a stamped 03A3 guard which took a .22 magazine. It fitted into my 03A3 but I never tried it out and it was sufficiently ugly that eventually I sold it.

Joel,

Good article, where was it published? I will add that it's Niedner.

The 1922 receiver does not have an extractor/lug groove on the inside right side of the receiver. Also the opening in the receiver bottom is milled out for the 22 magazine, not the 30-06 cartridge.

Bruce

Lots of photos on this thread:
http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/gunsmithing/poor-mans-1922-springfield-198313/

bcp, of course you are right.

Thank you mkbenenson and bcp. I have a spare 1922 bolt body around here someplace and I was wondering if it was possible to use it.

The 1922 bolt will go into a 1903 receiver, but not the reverse.

Your 1922 bolt and a 1903 receiver can be a start towards a 22LR sporter. I've always thought this would be a good use for a low numbered receiver with scope holes.

Bruce

Gun Digest paid me for it Michael, but it was lost in the shuffle of editors.