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Now you have sparked my curiousity. What possible advantage can you see a short bolt gun having over a #1 Ruger or Highwall? I had a friend who could get 2 and 3 shots at birds with an old beatup single shot shotgun. He carried shells between his fingers and was almost as fast as a pump gun. Good light #1 Ruger should work the same way. My short gun is a 600 350 Remington mag. Have two of them. If you want something impressive get a high quality samari sword
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Well for me its a snob thing pure and simple, I just like Mausers and a genuine Mauser manufactured sporting rifle is the "creme de la creme" IMHO.
Philip C Bolger (a yacht designer) put it best when he declared "why own a playboy centrefold if you can afford a Ruebens original" . . . or something like that. A No 1 or Remchester is sort of only a bit above the centrefold end of the scale.
Unfortunately I have to add that I'm on a "beer budget" so all my rifles bar one are also in the centrefold class - but hey - its ok to dream.
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Tentman I like the Manlicher Schoenauers. My using rifles are the 600 remingtons and a custom Arisaka. With a couple of highwalls and Martinis. I had a new unfired Persion mauser carbine once wish I still had it It was as well finised as most comercial rifles. Tom
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Hello Guys
I'm following up on a 250-3000 (Mauser K action) that is missing the bolt - a crying shame.
Anyhow if I am to make a serious offer on the remainder of the rifle I need an idea of how much you think it might cost to have a stateside 'smith shorten up a "new" bolt.
Is anyone still doing this sort of work ??
Many Thanks
Foster i advise you to forget that gun and buy a complete rifle. get past mauser "short" and buy something ready to shoot.
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Tentman,
Restoring a fine rifle like an original Mauser K actioned sporter in .250-3000 is a very worthwhile endeavor; and worth doing correctly. Find an original commercial bolt to shorten; either standard or intermediate length. The work is fairly straight forward and most of the cutting and fitting can be done in a lathe. The rib of the bolt is used to insure correct alignment of lugs etc. and the cut should be made in the middle of the rib. The trickiest part is getting the length exactly right so the rear lug and bolt root fit correctly. Shortening the firing pin is realitively easy; and the extractor is the same for K, intermediate, and standard actions.
I have done the two action cut and swap, and it works out well; although it is much more work than one might think. I started with an older commercial large ring small shank action that had been buggered quite a bit, and a "Standard Modell" action with Mauser crest on Reciever ring. I ended up with a magnum length action with crest, and a K small ring[the larger ring was turned down] solid side wall, action correctly marked with "Waffenfabrik Mauser Oberndorf a/n" on the side wall. Both actions recieved square bridges. The bottom metal for the K was made from an Argentine guard assembly, shortened at the rear, and with floorplate made into a "straddle" type. I had an original magnum length bottom metal for the other action. Magnum length actions have the recoil lug at the rear under portion of the reciever ring, and this had to be fabricated and welded to the action in order to use the original magnum metal. After all this work, the action was re-heat treated.
Good luck in your project.
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This is a shot in the dark. I've never seen or handled one but Remington markets (or used to) a Zastava "mini-mauser" as their model 799. Is it truly a scaled down Mauser? I don't know the dimensions but if so it might be easier to alter and fit.
Just a thought
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why should he bother? after going through all the expense and time all he will have is mauser with non-matching bolt. if he finds and buys a savage model 99e or it's variation in .250-3000 he will actually have something. 
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There's a nice article in Gunmaker magazine about making a Kurz out of a longer action, it has some good tips and some different approaches. It's in Gunmaker 123, Summer 2008, beginning pg 10, and was written by Steve Nelson, who apparently does this sort of thing at least occasionally. I'm not a Guild member and will not violate their copyright by showing the article on this public forum but will be happy to send a copy to anyone who wishes it.
Jagermeister, the reason anyone wants to obtain anything exotic or expensive or unique is because it gives them pleasure, makes them feel good.
Kinda like George Carlin's dog; why does he do that?
Because he CAN!(VVBG) Regards, Joe
You can lead a man to logic but you can't make him think. NRA Life since 1976. God bless America!
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why should he bother? after going through all the expense and time all he will have is mauser with non-matching bolt. if he finds and buys a savage model 99e or it's variation in .250-3000 he will actually have something. If the work is done correctly he will have a "matching" bolt. When the rifle was originally made the bolt had to be fitted before it would work. When he is done, he will have what some of us consider the ultimate Mauser rifle.....or I suppose he could buy a Savage 340. 
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if he finds and buys a savage model 99e or it's variation in .250-3000 he will actually have something. Yep, he'll have one just like mine and about 250,000 other guys.
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