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vikram #188364 05/11/10 05:44 AM
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If that gun is a Purdey then it has likely been restocked. There are no tear drops at the back end of the lock plates. The style of the stock looks more like a Scott gun. The pin in the forend, as mentioned by others, should not be there.

As shown, it does not look as if it is a Purdey gun.

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The pin in the forend iron was present in earlier Purdey guns. Pin placement on the sideplates of this gun is indicative of a Beesley pattern lock. I would not rule this out as genuine based on these photos alone.

I'm inclined to think the action is genuine, the engraving notwithstanding. As for the barrels and wood, I'll not vouch. Would have to see them, but I have my doubts.

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Whats the problem to send messg to Purdey?
Sign on top rib doesn't look write to me, it has to be hand engraved, but its not.


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I suspect it is a sleeved gun which has been poorly restocked. The barrels with that top rib just looks poor. You can get anything stamped or engraved on a rib. Unless this is a old low grade gun that was later upgraded by a owner to try to look like a better grade gun I suspect a fake. Even then it is still a fake upgrade. The engraving is not top level which you would expect on a Purdey but that may just be due to wear, age or poor maintenance. Bad example of a good name at best. Unless it is for sale at a bargain price I would keep looking.

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Vikram:
In my opinion, you may have a "Purdey." But the chances of it being a product of James Purdey & Sons of London, England, are slim indeed.

I've examined the photos. And NONE of the typical Purdey fit, style and workmanship is present. In addition, the inscription on the top rib is so clumsily done and inappropriately composed as to be almost comedic. All other factors follow suit.

God knows where this thing was made. But in my personal view, it wasn't London.

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FAKE, enlarge the stamped wording on the top of the barrels.
Probably a nice old gun that has been faked to a Purdey by some moron in India.

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When I enlarged the side view of the receiver area, I realized how bad a gun this really is. I earlier mentioned a fake Purdey I had appraised some years ago. It was so well made and fitted, I was seriously considering making an offer for it. The rib message and the pin placement were the only bad parts of the entire gun. The rest was a masterpiece of Spanish gunmaking.

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Its a typical 125 year old Purdey.Almost certainly made as a non ejecter and later converted, seen numerous guns like this with different ejector types fitted. The stock is worn hence lack of points ,the lock pins are loose so not lined up . Its an old gun that has seen better days ,may even have been rebarreld certainly looks like they have been re-engraved, but hard to tell from the picture.If you have any doubt then get it to some one who knows what they are talking about.

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After reading gunman's reply, I'm glad I didn't make any comments about the originality of this gun. I don't doubt what he says, but I still stick to my opinion that it's a bad gun, although probably a Purdey.

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How good is the collective memory?
I think that gun visited here previously. As I recall, it was an old gun, and had been used a great deal. The pin placement was discussed exhaustively. It had been restocked, during a time period when best work was not quite.
I sort of remember it because it surfaced near the time of the Roy Roger's Purdey.
Anything there ring a bell?


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