Jim, when you brought up recoil pads, I thought you were soliciting comments on felt recoil, too. Can we say that stock design , then, is sort of huge ?

When the weather is nice on Sunday afternoons, a group will wander over to a friend's ranch and shoot some clay birds. We usually bring two or three guns each and do a bit of shooting and some show and tell. I try to bring the same gauge each time to be able to use a box or two of the same shells. When a gun is interesting, others shoot it , too. What we have noticed is that some guns "kick" more than others, using the same ammo. Sure, weight could have something to do with it, but not always. Some guns slap your cheek, and sometimes the lightest gun feels like it kicks less. This happened a few weeks ago with a 5 1/4# Manufrance Ideal. I fully expected, as did a couple of other shooters, for it to kick more, but not so. We kind of laughed about it and might give it some "carrying" time this fall.